Got this Medal...what do you think?
Deagle74
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Hi everybody,
Recently I bought this medal. First of all because I find it very eye appealing and after all it was a 19th century Belgian Royal Numismatic Society Medal - something what I as a numismatic would definitely like to have in my collection. I have to admit that only after I had won the item I realized that this is actually an Adolphe Weyl Royal Numismatic Society Membership Medal (It says in the center of the obverse: "Adolphe Weyl - Elu membre le 19 janvier 1882") and not a Renier Chalon Medal.
Ok. SO Who was Adolphe Weyl? I did some "google research" and got some fragmented information about his numismatic literature (Adolph Weyl -Verzeichniss von Münzen und Medaillen der Erdtheile Australien, Asien, Afrika und verschiedener mohammedanischer Dynastien der Jules Fonrobert'schen Sammlung, Berlin 1878) and facts that he was a numismatic (and a coin dealer?) from Berlin, Germany.
And then I found an interesting piece of information about his connection to the famous 1804 dollar (one of). As I could figure it out - Adolph Weyl was one of the owners of the Dexter specimen 1804 Dollar (this is one of so called "originals") - and did sell his 1804 dollar to the Chapman Brothers.
Did I get this information right or was Adolphe Weyl only a dealer to Chapman Brothers?
I would really appreciate your help and the opinion of the 1804 Dollar experts - on this board.
And I question myself - if this is his Numismatic Society Membership Medal - was it one of a kind, issued to him personally + How did it come to the market? I'm sure that this medal is the closest I can get to 1804 Dollar
)
Your opinions are welcome.
I found clues about Adolphe Weyl on those links:
- a 1880s William von Bergen publication featuring contemporary information on the Adolph Weyl 1804 Dollar sold by the Chapman brothers, the first we have ever encountered and estimated at $100, ended up realizing $1,437;
- This one is interesting
- Look under 4. Dexter specimen
- Look under no. 5
- Heritage site: Look under Registry of Known Specimens - Dexter Specimen
Recently I bought this medal. First of all because I find it very eye appealing and after all it was a 19th century Belgian Royal Numismatic Society Medal - something what I as a numismatic would definitely like to have in my collection. I have to admit that only after I had won the item I realized that this is actually an Adolphe Weyl Royal Numismatic Society Membership Medal (It says in the center of the obverse: "Adolphe Weyl - Elu membre le 19 janvier 1882") and not a Renier Chalon Medal.
Ok. SO Who was Adolphe Weyl? I did some "google research" and got some fragmented information about his numismatic literature (Adolph Weyl -Verzeichniss von Münzen und Medaillen der Erdtheile Australien, Asien, Afrika und verschiedener mohammedanischer Dynastien der Jules Fonrobert'schen Sammlung, Berlin 1878) and facts that he was a numismatic (and a coin dealer?) from Berlin, Germany.
And then I found an interesting piece of information about his connection to the famous 1804 dollar (one of). As I could figure it out - Adolph Weyl was one of the owners of the Dexter specimen 1804 Dollar (this is one of so called "originals") - and did sell his 1804 dollar to the Chapman Brothers.
Did I get this information right or was Adolphe Weyl only a dealer to Chapman Brothers?
I would really appreciate your help and the opinion of the 1804 Dollar experts - on this board.
And I question myself - if this is his Numismatic Society Membership Medal - was it one of a kind, issued to him personally + How did it come to the market? I'm sure that this medal is the closest I can get to 1804 Dollar
)Your opinions are welcome.
I found clues about Adolphe Weyl on those links:
- a 1880s William von Bergen publication featuring contemporary information on the Adolph Weyl 1804 Dollar sold by the Chapman brothers, the first we have ever encountered and estimated at $100, ended up realizing $1,437;
- This one is interesting
- Look under 4. Dexter specimen
- Look under no. 5
- Heritage site: Look under Registry of Known Specimens - Dexter Specimen
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...anybody have studied the 1804 Dollar Story??
If you have numismatic societies medals..or one of 1804 Dollar.
Thanx. R.
P.S.
Actually any Draped bust Dollar will do
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thoughts?
Does somebody have an information who ownes the Dexter specimen of 1804 Dollar today??
nada??
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The ancient refers to some of the posters as much as the coins, ...
Thanx, Rok
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If you have numismatic societies medals.....plz post them.
Thanx. R. >>
Well..... I found one myself..and it's quite cool
"Lot description:
1983 American Numismatic Society 125th Anniversary Medal. Numbered 39. Silver. As Issued.
109.2 x 90.5 mm. A superb large medal, one of the finest designs issued by the ANS. In original case of issue. Dies by Marcel Jovine, an accomplished engraver who also designed the 1987 $5 gold coin commemorating the Constitution, the reverse of the 1988 $5 Olympic commemorative, the obverse of the 1991 Mount Rushmore half dollar, the reverse of the 1992 Olympic dollar and many more coins and medal dating back to 1950. The obverse of the present medal features St. Eligius, patron saint of numismatics against a background of 26 different coins of the world. A large and impressive medal, and always popular for its theme.
From the Norweb Collection (Stack's, November 2006, lot 2274)."
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