This can't be right ???!!

Bosox1976

ebay linky

artimus

looks like a psa 5 to me.....

EB22

Is PSA giving out high grades these days when not deserved?

That card looks really bad for the grade!!!

Dboneesq

IMO, NO WAY that's legit ... if it is, I will pay 10 xs the grading fee to get that grader if they use the same standards! LMAO

yankeeno7

Thats a very old flip...one of their first...grading probably not nearly as precise at that time.

Treetop

I've seen cards worse than that in those old flips.

Bosox1976

it checks out OK on the cert verification, and doesn't look frosty...

Stone193

That's the way it goes sometimes - I bought this 52T - price was right, but I thought the upper right corner made it a 6 IMO - but still - overall a nice card.



And, as was said, I've seen worse also.

mike

Dboneesq

Mike,

I'll take EITHER one of those graders! LOL

storm888

I guess grading has gotten a lot tougher since back in the day.

That Mantle is an ugly-barker.

An example of "buy the card, not the holder."

itzagoner

NM means "near" not "far from".

chaz43

<< <i>ebay linky

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PSA 4. chaz

cardbender

That's a very ugly 7. Looks more like a 5. Judging by the flip, it looks like it was graded around 1995-96.

That ebay seller has a lot of bad looking scans. He sells mostly decent stuff too, but he needs a new scanner. He's costing himself some money. I'm not saying he should enhance his scans either, but put up clearer ones. They look dull.

With a better scan, even this Mantle could look like a 6!

Pigs

Here's a good comparison of a PSA card of mine from the same "grading" era. Is this a "7" in todays grading? No, maybe a "6" or lower. But I do think it looks better than the Mantle shown here. I've always been happy with the centering if nothing else. BTW, the snow is not as prevalant on the actual card as the snowstorm that the scan shows. Take care. Doug

Stingray

I am not sure about that flip, you see how it has rounded corners around the white and red border. I do not think that those types of flips were first used by PSA. This is a first generation font based on the zeros I believe. I thought this flip (meaning just the piece of paper without the text) with this style of rounded corners was used in 2nd or 3rd type flips were the text was mis-aligned all time.

Edit: Guess I was wrong, PSA did use this style of flip with this type of font.

MLRMLEO

Thats why you buy the card, not the Grade!

WinPitcher

s PSA giving out high grades these days when not deserved?



Ummm if correct that cert is from 1991.


Steve

WinPitcher

From the description, (the auction was ended early by the seller)


"card is also graded 7 near mint by PSA, not likely to find one in better condition,"



lol


Steve

BunchOBull

It would be nice if PSA would release a "history of flips," in order for us to have to compare against. While it won't prove authenticity, it can help give clues as to the card/grade being legit.

fkw

4,000,000 flip.... thats from mid 90's.

Looks like a TRUE NRMT card if you take oldschool grading (pre slabs)

SidePocket

No way that's legit. Must be why he ended it early?

Morgoth

Wiwag, cough, cough

IchiroDeported

"Looks like a TRUE NRMT card if you take oldschool grading (pre slabs)"

obviously your being sarcastic.... '

but thats just a crock. People knew how to grade and still know how to grade cards. Some folks never had the skills to grade, but most can judge accurately and honestly. I doubt that the majority of the folks on this board need an expert to tell them what grade a card is.

hammered

<< <i>Wiwag, cough, cough >>



Possible, but I'm thinking more likely just a lenient grading job.
But I'm certain there are many Wiwag cards still floating around out there.

divecchia

That looks like to older flip and grading may have been more lenient at the beginning.

Donato

WinPitcher

"Looks like a TRUE NRMT card if you take oldschool grading (pre slabs)"


nah, even back in the day a card like that was considered EX.

It was either missed or is a switch job.


Steve

mrpeanut39

I took a close look at a couple of cards I have with those old flips, and the 7s are noticeably weak. The 8s are at least acceptable. Maybe the standards for a 6 and a 7 were more blurry then?

nightcrawler

Nasty lookin 7.