ANACS MS67 FBL 1952-D Franklin Sells !
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Last night on Teletrade , the coin sold .............
It had been for sale for a few years , maybe the post about " You think the Holder means anything " thread stirred up interest .
At any rate- the coin has a vivid history ; it had been in several different TPG holders at several different grades .
I held the coin in my hand and I know it's history well
It had been for sale for a few years , maybe the post about " You think the Holder means anything " thread stirred up interest .
At any rate- the coin has a vivid history ; it had been in several different TPG holders at several different grades .
I held the coin in my hand and I know it's history well
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It's been on the market for several years - on Teletrade half a dozen times , ebay at least that many ...........
how many MS67 FBL 1952-D's are out there ???????????
if it never caught your eye in these past years , maybe you weren't meant to see it
.....get your mom to crank up your 'puter and have her guide you to the website ; then click on prices realized and type in 52-D Franklin
it's hard work and could take you all of three min. to do ...........
go for it man - take the plunge - take the risk and go find the pix - u can do it
if you mean do i have pix of it when it was in a NGC 65 holder or a PCGS 64 holder , .........then answer is no
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
<< <i>If its sold that many times it must not be very good >>
it was up for sale DOZENS of times and never sold
below is a post about the coin from 2006 :
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<< Also, I don't think ANACS will ever attain the status they are looking for if they retain Randy Cambell,
????????
PLEASE EXPLAIN. >>
Ok. The following is a true story, I saw the whole thing with my own eyes. I have heard similar stories from others, but that is hearsay. What follows is fact.
Some years ago, there was a 1952-D Franklin with some decent color toning in a PCGS MS64FBL holder.
IMHO it was an MS65FBL that PCGS undergraded. A local coin dealer/coin doctor submitted the coin to
ANACS and they graded it MS66FBL. No big deal there. One day at a larger show in Chicagoland, the
dealer/doctor, whom I will call Blueberry had the coin prominently displayed in his case and Randy
Campbell passed by the table and stopped to chat. He picked up the ANACS MS66FBL 52-D, looked at it,
and proclaimed, (paraphrasing now), 'I really like this coin...this is the best 52-D I have seen...I am going
to put this in an MS67 holder.' There was no money or grading submission form exchanged, he just
walked away with the coin. Blueberry looked a bit stunned.
An hour or two later, the same coin was back in Blueberry's display case, in an mS67FBL holder.
To me, that is very disturbing. I consider myself an expert at grading Franklins, and I am and was quite
familiar with the nuances of PCGS vs. ANACS grading, especially so for Franklins, which I specialize in.
To me, the possibility of that coin having been assigned an MS67 grade by concensus grading is
infintesimally small. The coin was already overgraded as an MS66, and the new grade was absolutely a
pipe-dream.
P.S.- In the years that have passed since that incident, the market has vindicated my opinion about the
coin:
As an MS67, it sat in Blueberry's case for a couple years, until finally, a sucker came along in the form of
Ebay seller Ultracoin. Ultracoin has had it in his Ebay store for several years now, at a reasonable price,
but it remains unsold because no one can abide by the assigned grade.
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So did "Blueberry" doctor this coin?
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<< <i>no - i do not believe the coin was doctored in any way >>
...but it sure could use it.
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<< <i>That coin is hideous. >>
Certainly the photo is hideous.
If that Franklin has luster and the coin pops in hand, although overgraded, would be a premium example for the date/mint.
If not, yeah- I agree. Looks kind of doggy with no luster and shot straight on.
Those who have seen it in hand- what's your take?
peacockcoins
<< <i>I prefer my coins free of mildew thanks.
Uh, Clorox would not improve the look of this coin. Can you say BLACK!?
Don't like it at all (for the grade).
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<< <i>I bet it gets returned. >>
it may not have really "sold" -
it may have been "bought" by a friend of the consignee ; just to make it appear it sold
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<< <i>That coin is hideous. >>
Certainly the photo is hideous.
If that Franklin has luster and the coin pops in hand, although overgraded, would be a premium example for the date/mint.
If not, yeah- I agree. Looks kind of doggy with no luster and shot straight on.
Those who have seen it in hand- what's your take? >>
.....it's a funky looking thing - and the pix are poor, I wanted the thing when I saw it at a show ,
so it isn't THAT bad. But keep in mind , PCGS had it in a 64 holder for pete's sake !!!!
It's been on the market for several years - on Teletrade half a dozen times , ebay at least that many ...........
how many MS67 FBL 1952-D's are out there ???????????
if it never caught your eye in these past years , maybe you weren't meant to see it
.....get your mom to crank up your 'puter and have her guide you to the website ; then click on prices realized and type in 52-D Franklin
it's hard work and could take you all of three min. to do ...........
go for it man - take the plunge - take the risk and go find the pix - u can do it
if you mean do i have pix of it when it was in a NGC 65 holder or a PCGS 64 holder , .........then answer is no >>
After typing all that, it wouldnt have been easier to just provide a link to your thread?
<<if it never caught your eye in these past years , maybe you weren't meant to see it>>
Also, not everyone collects Franklins, nor shops on Teletrade. If we are not meant to see it, why post this thread at all?
As for the coin, its a dog. I wouldnt pay $13 for that dreck, Imnot even going to comment on a price tag of $1300.
........it's the principle - i was pointing out that I spent more time typing one finger at a time then it would of taken him to go see for his self !
......PC is a Franklin nut ,
and they're cold.
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<< <i>Maybe so...but PCGS would never annoint it with a 67 either. >>
as has been stated ; PCGS graded it MS64 ......................