Is this 1909-S PCGS certifiable?
JoeTheCoinMan
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Does it look PCGS certifiable to you? Also, any guesses on the grade?
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Thanks,
Joseph
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64RB
I like that coin.
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
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-Paul
Can't really see the hits on the coin, so it could range anywhere from 63RB to 66RB.
.......it's a beauty. it should grade. i'd say 65 RB.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
I would definitely send it in.
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<< <i>Whenever I see a coin like that I have to ask why it isn't already slabbed. Unless you know it's pedigree, I wouldn't try to get it slabbed. >>
True is that but given the apparent excellent and original condition why wouldn't you want to take a $45 shot on what may very well be a $500 - $1000 dollar coin?
edit: statement above assumes that the OP already owns the coin, if he is going to buy it raw based on a photo then I absolutely would not take a shot.
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As mentioned above.
<< <i>True is that but given the apparent excellent and original condition why wouldn't you want to take a $45 shot on what may very well be a $500 - $1000 dollar coin? >>
It's already bid up to about $400.
After SHI to get it plus grading and shipping costs the buyer will have $450+ in it.
The seller should have had it graded if they think it's as nice as it looks and original but did not.
<< <i>I will guess it gets hit for enviro damage. Otherwise I would guess the grade as - MS63RB >>
I'm sorry, what environmental damage? Are you looking at the same coin we are? I say definitely, this will holder minimum 64RB, probably higher. With all that luster, it looks pretty original to me, and quite red but just enough toning in it to give it RB. That's a very nice coin!
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<< <i>True is that but given the apparent excellent and original condition why wouldn't you want to take a $45 shot on what may very well be a $500 - $1000 dollar coin? >>
It's already bid up to about $400.
After SHI to get it plus grading and shipping costs the buyer will have $450+ in it.
The seller should have had it graded if they think it's as nice as it looks and original but did not.
Yep, my mistake. I did not realize that the OP was considering buying the coin, raw, on e-bay.
Still could be a real steal depending upon the final hammer price. I'd bet dollars to donuts that coin is the real deal.
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<< <i>Still could be a real steal depending upon the final hammer price. I'd bet dollars to donuts that coin is the real deal. >>
I agree - it's a beauty! Just because it's raw doesn't mean there's something wrong with it. Many people do not send in their coins to TPGs, even keys/semi-keys like this one.
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bob
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<< <i>Still could be a real steal depending upon the final hammer price. I'd bet dollars to donuts that coin is the real deal. >>
I agree - it's a beauty! Just because it's raw doesn't mean there's something wrong with it. Many people do not send in their coins to TPGs, even keys/semi-keys like this one. >>
The many people you speak of are loosing $$ by not having them graded by TPG's.It's
just plain stupid to sell raw coins,especially keys/semi keys.
<< <i>Somebody took it out of the book and cleaned it. It will not grade.
bob
I agree - I am highly suspect of lincolns that red that are that old (i know a lot of these were kept out of circulation) and would presume cleaned or acid dipped. Whoever cleaned it did a good job but it still does not look like "original color". Let's see the rims - if they are brown = original. If red = cleaned/dipped.
-Paul
<< <i>It's just plain stupid to sell raw coins,especially keys/semi keys. >>
I don't know if you looked, but the poster you responded to with this comment is selling raw keys on her website.
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<< <i>It's just plain stupid to sell raw coins,especially keys/semi keys. >>
I don't know if you looked, but the poster you responded to with this comment is selling raw keys on her website. >>
Not sure why that matters? I'm pretty secure in grading and buying raw coins - even keys! And it may surprise you, but there are actually collectors out there who know how to grade raw coins, and even PREFER to buy raw coins. Yes, really.
The Penny Lady®
<< <i>Not sure why that matters? >>
It doesn't matter. To me, anyway, since the vast majority of what I sell is raw, too (even keys). I just thought it was a rude thing to say (the "It's just plain stupid" comment, that is).
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<< <i>Not sure why that matters? >>
It doesn't matter. To me, anyway, since the vast majority of what I sell is raw, too (even keys). I just thought it was a rude thing to say (the "It's just plain stupid" comment, that is).
edited for clarity... >>
Agreed - thanks.
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Too much artifacting(?), and when I question the image I have to question the item.
I would ask for better images before deciding whether the coin would certify or not.
My guess, based on my 'gut' feeling about the image, I would say no, but the coin does look nice.
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<< <i>I will guess it gets hit for enviro damage. Otherwise I would guess the grade as - MS63RB >>
I'm sorry, what environmental damage? Are you looking at the same coin we are? I say definitely, this will holder minimum 64RB, probably higher. With all that luster, it looks pretty original to me, and quite red but just enough toning in it to give it RB. That's a very nice coin! >>
I assume you mean the coin in the original post is what we are all looking at. The surface is a mess. I hope you're right for the buyers sake but it's not one I would pay for.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
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<< <i>I will guess it gets hit for enviro damage. Otherwise I would guess the grade as - MS63RB >>
I'm sorry, what environmental damage? Are you looking at the same coin we are? I say definitely, this will holder minimum 64RB, probably higher. With all that luster, it looks pretty original to me, and quite red but just enough toning in it to give it RB. That's a very nice coin! >>
I assume you mean the coin in the original post is what we are all looking at. The surface is a mess. I hope you're right for the buyers sake but it's not one I would pay for. >>
Exactly how is the surface a mess? Please elaborate.
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<< <i>I will guess it gets hit for enviro damage. Otherwise I would guess the grade as - MS63RB >>
I'm sorry, what environmental damage? Are you looking at the same coin we are? I say definitely, this will holder minimum 64RB, probably higher. With all that luster, it looks pretty original to me, and quite red but just enough toning in it to give it RB. That's a very nice coin! >>
I assume you mean the coin in the original post is what we are all looking at. The surface is a mess. I hope you're right for the buyers sake but it's not one I would pay for. >>
Exactly how is the surface a mess? Please elaborate. >>
Do a comparison with another 09S - you'll figure it out.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
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<< <i>I will guess it gets hit for enviro damage. Otherwise I would guess the grade as - MS63RB >>
I'm sorry, what environmental damage? Are you looking at the same coin we are? I say definitely, this will holder minimum 64RB, probably higher. With all that luster, it looks pretty original to me, and quite red but just enough toning in it to give it RB. That's a very nice coin! >>
I assume you mean the coin in the original post is what we are all looking at. The surface is a mess. I hope you're right for the buyers sake but it's not one I would pay for. >>
Exactly how is the surface a mess? Please elaborate. >>
Do a comparison with another 09S - you'll figure it out. >>
No particular details as to why this particular coin, in your view, has "messed up" surfaces?
Based upon the picture in the OP, the coin has surfaces that are consistent with uncirculated '09-S Lincoln cents.
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<< <i>Based upon the picture in the OP, the coin has surfaces that are consistent with uncirculated '09-S Lincoln cents. >>
The Penny Lady®
<< <i>Does it look PCGS certifiable to you? Also, any guesses on the grade? >>
So, Joe, did you win this coin?
The Penny Lady®
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<< <i>I will guess it gets hit for enviro damage. Otherwise I would guess the grade as - MS63RB >>
I'm sorry, what environmental damage? Are you looking at the same coin we are? I say definitely, this will holder minimum 64RB, probably higher. With all that luster, it looks pretty original to me, and quite red but just enough toning in it to give it RB. That's a very nice coin! >>
I assume you mean the coin in the original post is what we are all looking at. The surface is a mess. I hope you're right for the buyers sake but it's not one I would pay for. >>
Exactly how is the surface a mess? Please elaborate. >>
Do a comparison with another 09S - you'll figure it out. >>
No particular details as to why this particular coin, in your view, has "messed up" surfaces?
Based upon the picture in the OP, the coin has surfaces that are consistent with uncirculated '09-S Lincoln cents. >>
You're right - I see the light now.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
This coin could be anywhere from 63RB to 66RD. IMO it is highly likely to slab and $465 is not a bad gamble.
Lance.
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<< <i>Not sure why that matters? >>
It doesn't matter. To me, anyway, since the vast majority of what I sell is raw, too (even keys). I just thought it was a rude thing to say (the "It's just plain stupid" comment, that is).
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Agreed - thanks. >>
Sorry if I offended.Didn't mean to call someone"stupid" Wrong choice of words.
<< <i>Not a bad gamble -- coin looks pretty darn good from the images. In person might be different but based on what I see, I think it should slab. >>
Yes, but what's going on with the orange peel surfaces??? Really bad pictures....
In the first obverse picture, the date looks a little too thin, like some metal has been moved around. Also the surfaces are much too 'mirrorlike' for what I would think of as original.
In the second obverse picture, what's going on in the field between the bow tie and the chin? Looks like something was removed or the dremel was left in place a bit too long.
Of course, this is all based on the photos we have to see here. In hand, I could change my mind.
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<< <i>Does it look PCGS certifiable to you? Also, any guesses on the grade? >>
So, Joe, did you win this coin? >>
No, I decided that it would be too risky, even though some people said it was the real deal, I felt like I should not bid, as the reason why I posted the post was that it looked kind of funny to me, although I bought a similar coin before from photos and it turned out to have a "wood grain finish".
Thanks everyone for all of your help though.
Joseph
This type of coin could likely get you a " You Suck" if properly ripped then made itself into a 65-RB holder. What did it sell for?