What do you think of my first non-modern proof?
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I am not on top of the prices of this coin, but I figure it sold for a discount of $1,300 from the last 2 times the same coins sold on Heritage so I figure I could not have done too badly.
Looking at the previous sales it also is also is "from The Bay State Collection, Part One" and Ex "Anaconda Rare Coins" whatever that adds.
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Nice looking coin ..................... I'm not convinced it's dipped.
<< <i>Nice looking coin ..................... I'm not convinced it's dipped. >>
How might it have been stored to inhibit nearly all toning for 100+ years?
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<< <i>Doesn't look dipped to me?????? >>
Again, I must ask, why doesn't it look dipped to you? This is a 100+ year old silver dollar with essentially no toning. How did that happen?
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I see some toning around the rim. The coin seems to have a nice cameo. It may have been ever so lightly dipped, but if so doesn't appear to have affected the cameo contrast. Believe it or not, some silver coins haven't tarnished much thru the years .... the same way that there are still red pennies from the 18th century. Storage conditions sometimes are ideal ... as well as good surfaced coins better protect themselves from toning.
I'm simply stating, from the OP's photo, it isn't clear to me that it's been dipped.
That said, I'm not saying it's been dipped, nor am I saying it hasn't been ..... I'm just not convinced it has. Based upon the photo, it certainly is market acceptable IMHO and the op should be proud to own it, unless the coin in hand shows something I'm not seeing.
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<< <i>Again, I must ask, why doesn't it look dipped to you? This is a 100+ year old silver dollar with essentially no toning. How did that happen? >>
TomB, It's Elfin Magic!
Cameo contrast will not come off with a dip
Tom, I respectfully disagree. Dipping eats away the outer silver layer ..... dipping can lessen and eliminate the contrast. It only has a contrast because of the surface created by the polished field of the die in this case. The smooth surface of the field will loose it's contrast as it's dipped long enough to remove the surface. Granted, anyone with dipping experience wouldn't dip a coin that long, but it can happen. I personally can not say for certain that this coin has been dipped, if it has, it has been so lightly as to not affect the market desireablity. I would have to have the coin in hand in this particular instance in order to give an opinion of whether or not I think, it's been dipped. What I do know is, it's a very attractive coin and the OP shouldn't think otherwise just because some people think all silver has to tarnish a certain degree. I respect your opinion Tom, I'm just stating mine.
All of the above IMHO & respectfully submitted....Mike (who hopes the coin is a stunner in-hand and the OP is happy with his purchase!)
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Congratulations, that is sure a droolworthy beauty.
I've managed to have a couple of nice 19th century proofs, but only one CAM (NGC UCAM, actually- but that was Darkside).
Oh yeah, I had a PR63 CAM 1898 Barber half from the Benson collection, too.
But I could probably still count all the pre-1900 proofs I have had on my fingers. I really love 'em but they aren't easy on my budget.
Dipping is not nearly so negative as many interpret it. Generally dipping is NOT considered cleaning. Some here want to expand the term "cleaned" to include dipping but I don't agree with them. Dipping is the difference between original and not original. It is not the difference between cleaned and not cleaned. Hairlines are more like "cleaned" but because so many 19th centrury proofs have them the C word is usually kept silent and the description is usually just "light hairlines".
--Jerry
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