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How is this a 65

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Ugly 1912 MPL

You have got to be kidding me

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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mirrors? On an MPL?

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is ugly. Looks AT, rather poorly AT at that.

    1912 MPLS had a lot of woodgrain feature, which you can see on this coin, and a lot of them were never sold initially and spent decades and decades wrapped in the 'tarnish proof tissue', and no doubt a lot of these got a good (bad) dip treatment in the fifties and sixties. Ove time this coin developed this ugly look. Of course, it is a good strike and no nicks, so technically it IS a 65.

    I wouldnt touch that coin with someone elses ten foot pole.

    Abe looks bad as a blonde, thats for sure.
  • ACactionsACactions Posts: 372
    It appears to have carbon flecks all over the obverse.... always thought the spots were grade limiting


    do not like it at all.... YUCK YUCK YUCK
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yeah youre right....64 ugly
  • BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭




    This is a 65RB
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    This is a 63RB?
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    perhaps we are seeing an ugly picture of a beautiful coinimage
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No you are seeing a good picture of a POS

    Heres another version of a 1912. Probably wrapped in the mint tissue until some day in the mid fifties when a much younger Dave Bowers first set eyes on it, covered in green toning, woodgraining peeking through, with hints of deep ruby red in the protected areas.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lets see the coin in hand first- before it gets the death sentence

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  • ACactionsACactions Posts: 372
    Would love to see it in hand... but not a chance in hell that I would pay that price to see it in hand... The photos that are posted seem like they were taken by someone competant... Not sure- Just really dislike that mustard yellow with carbon flecks... Not a good look for this coin... makes me want to strip it completely and let it re-tone.. Wow... dislike this one a lot.

    There are some decent MPL's on the bay... but this one, my friend, has an eye appeal that I strongly dislike.

    John
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think Abe looks a lot like Dennis Rodman on that "65" image
  • scottgardenerscottgardener Posts: 1,205 ✭
    Call me weird, but I rather like the one you're all calling ugly. I'm not an MPL collector, so I may not pay the asking price, but if I were, I'd consider it. But, I'm a sucker for crazy toning. Note that that's a very early NGC holder, when grading standards were still getting ironed out. But, in terms of technical grade, I'm inclinded to think it's a 65. NGC is friendlier overall to toning than PCGS; if it were sent back to NGC for a regrade, it might even grade higher. Of course, it'll get that wonky new holder in the process, which looks impressive with large coins but makes smaller coins like Lincoln cents look dinky.
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