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  • benderbroethbenderbroeth Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    how old was he?
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  • 36 years old. Very sad for such a great athlete.
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RIP Steve. You were amazing.

    What a shame ...

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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Sad news. He seemed to have a pretty good head on his shoulders, and I really admired his toughness. I think he was a prototype for a new generation of QBs that could beat you with both his arm and his legs.

    [edit to add: The police are apparently calling it a murder-suicide...]
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Great quarterback that will be missed. RIP Steve.
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  • Ex-NFL QB McNair found shot to death in condoby FOXSports.com

    add this RSS blog email print Updated: July 4, 2009, 5:39 PM EDT
    Former NFL quarterback Steve McNair has been shot and killed. He was 36.


    Steve McNair played 13 NFL seasons. (Chris McGrath / Getty Images)
    Nashville police spokesman Don Aaron confirmed that police were called to a residence and found McNair and a woman shot to death inside. Aaron said authorities don't yet know the circumstances of the shooting.

    "I don't have any answers for you now as to what's happened, who's responsible," he said.

    Aaron said police have tentatively identified the woman but did not release her name.

    Titans owner Bud Adams also confirmed the quarterback's death in a brief statement released Saturday.

    Adams called him "one of the finest players to play for our organization and one of the most beloved players by our fans. He played with unquestioned heart and leadership and led us to places that we had never reached, including our only Super Bowl."

    McNair played 11 seasons in the NFL with the Tennessee Titans franchise and then spent two seasons with the Baltimore Ravens.

    He was a three-time Pro Bowler and was the Co-AP NFL MVP in 2003.

    McNair played in the "Music City Miracle" game in 1999, when his Titans stunned the Buffalo Bills with a kickoff return touchdown in the final seconds in their AFC Wild Card playoff game.

    McNair led the Titans to the Super Bowl that season, where they lost to the Rams. With the Titans driving for a potential game-tying score in the fourth quarter, McNair completed a pass to Kevin Dyson in the closing moments but Dyson was stopped at the 1-yard line.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Aaron said police have tentatively identified the woman but did not release her name. >>

    But they apparently had no qualms with identifying McNair's name when he was tentatively identified...


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    << <i>Aaron said police have tentatively identified the woman but did not release her name. >>

    But they apparently had no qualms with identifying McNair's name when he was tentatively identified... >>



    I'm sure his family had already been notified. They don't release names without notifying the family and getting their consent to let the information go public. And the person who said police are calling it a murder-suicide are simply passing on rumors. The police have had no comment on what possibly happened.
  • Wow...
    Am I speaking Chinese?



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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,299 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Aaron said police have tentatively identified the woman but did not release her name. >>

    But they apparently had no qualms with identifying McNair's name when he was tentatively identified... >>



    I'm sure his family had already been notified. They don't release names without notifying the family and getting their consent to let the information go public. And the person who said police are calling it a murder-suicide are simply passing on rumors. The police have had no comment on what possibly happened. >>



    Yes, but "usually" the police readily announce it when they believe it's a homicide...I guess to try to quickly get leads and create public awareness to catch the perpetrators. I'm not saying that it couldn't be a homicide because I have no idea one way or the other, but I think the person who said police "are calling it a murder-suicide", I think the police probably do believe right now that's what it is...although of course further evidence could change that.

    Interesting also that women are not usually murderers and especially murder-suicide...very uncommon, so if it turns out to be a murder-suicide it would likely be McNair...but I'm not even gonna speculate on what happened based on no evidence brought forward or released yet.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The woman he was found dead with had been arrested for DUI with McNair in the vehicle two days ago...gun was found right next to the body, sounds like a murder-suicide to me, too..she probably flipped when he wouldn't leave his wife and shot him before killing herself...


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,299 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The woman he was found dead with had been arrested for DUI with McNair in the vehicle two days ago...gun was found right next to the body, sounds like a murder-suicide to me, too..she probably flipped when he wouldn't leave his wife and shot him before killing herself... >>



    I hadn't heard the update...seems logical based on that. I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about "this woman" in the near future.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Former NFL quarterback McNair killed in Tennessee

    Former quarterback Steve McNair shot dead By KRISTIN M. HALL, Associated Press Writer Kristin M. Hall, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 1 min ago
    NASHVILLE, Tenn. – Former NFL quarterback Steve McNair, who led the famous Tennessee Titans' drive that came a yard short of forcing overtime in the 2000 Super Bowl, was found dead Saturday with multiple gunshot wounds, including one to the head. Police said a pistol was discovered near the body of a woman also shot dead in a downtown condominium.

    Nashville police spokesman Don Aaron identified the woman as 20-year-old Sahel Kazemi, whom he called a "friend" of McNair's. She had a single gunshot wound to the head.

    Police said the 36-year-old McNair was found on the sofa in the living room, and Kazemi was very close to him on the floor. Aaron said the gun was not "readily apparent" when police first arrived.

    Autopsies were planned for Sunday.

    Aaron said McNair's wife, Mechelle, is "very distraught."

    "At this juncture, we do not believe she is involved," he said. "Nothing has been ruled out, but as far as actively looking for a suspect tonight, the answer would be no."

    Fred McNair, Steve McNair's oldest brother, said some family members likely will travel to Nashville on Monday to consult with Steve McNair's wife.

    "It's still kind of hard to believe," Fred McNair said. "He was the greatest person in the world. He gave back to the community. He loved kids and he wanted to be a role model to kids."

    He said he did not know who Kazemi was.

    The bodies were discovered Saturday afternoon by McNair's longtime friend, Wayne Neeley, who said he rents the condo with McNair.

    Aaron said Neeley told authorities he went into the condo, saw McNair on the sofa and Kazemi on the floor but walked first into the kitchen before going back into the living room, where he saw the blood.

    Neeley then called a friend, who alerted authorities.

    Police said a witness saw McNair arrive at the condo in the upscale Rutledge Hill neighborhood between 1:30 and 2 a.m. Saturday and that Kazemi's vehicle was already there. The condominium is located within walking distance of an area filled with restaurants and nightspots, a few blocks from the Cumberland River and within view of the Titans' stadium.

    Two days ago, Nashville police arrested Kazemi on a DUI charge while driving a 2007 Escalade registered to her and McNair. McNair was in the front seat, but didn't break the law and was allowed to leave by taxi.

    The arrest affidavit said Kazemi had bloodshot eyes and the smell of alcohol on her breath, but refused a breathalyzer test, saying "she was not drunk, she was high."

    McNair and his family frequented the restaurant where Kazemi was a waitress, according employees and patrons of Dave & Buster's in Nashville. Keith Norfleet, Kazemi's ex-boyfriend, told The Tennessean newspaper that McNair and Kazemi met at the restaurant.

    "She was reliable 90 percent of the time," manager Chris Truelove said of Kazemi. "She was pretty outgoing. A lot of the guests liked being around her, and she liked being around the guests."

    Co-worker Shantez Jobe, 33, she said was friends with Kazemi.

    "We talked about who had more fashion sense, and who was the cutest, and who could get more boys, you know some of the stuff girls do," Jobe said.

    In June, McNair opened a restaurant near the Tennessee State University campus. It was closed Saturday evening, but had become a small memorial, where flowers, candles and notes had been placed outside the door.

    On the restaurant's windows were messages: "We will miss you Steve" and "We love you Steve."

    A note attached to a small blue teddy bear read, "We will never forget you, Steve. Once a Titan, always a Titan."

    "We don't know the details, but it is a terrible tragedy and our hearts go out to the families involved," NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement.

    McNair, a four-time Pro Bowl selection, led the Titans to the 2000 Super Bowl, which they lost 23-16 to the St. Louis Rams. He was co-MVP of the NFL with Colts quarterback Peyton Manning in 2003. He also played for the Baltimore Ravens before retiring in April 2008.

    His most notable moment came in that Super Bowl, when he led the Titans 87 yards in the final minute and 48 seconds, only to come up a yard short of making it a one-point game. Kevin Dyson caught his 9-yard pass, but was tackled at the 1-yard line by the Rams' Mike Jones. A made extra point in all likelihood would have sent the game to overtime.

    McNair accounted for all of Tennessee's yards in that drive, throwing for 48 yards and rushing for 14. The rest of the yardage came on penalties against the Rams. Before that, he brought the Titans back from a 16-0 deficit to tie the game.

    "If you were going to draw a football player, the physical part, the mental part, everything about being a professional, he is your guy," former Ravens and Titans teammate Samari Rolle said. "I can't even wrap my arms around it. It is a sad, sad day. The world lost a great man today."

    McNair grew up in rural Mount Olive, Miss., and became a nationally known college football star playing for Alcorn State, a Division I-AA school in his home state. He was so dominant in the Southwestern Athletic Conference, he became a Heisman Trophy contender. National media flocked to little Lorman in the southwest corner of the Magnolia state to get a look at "Air McNair." He still holds the Division I-AA (now known as Football Championship Subdivision) records for career yards passing (14,496) and total offense (16,823).

    McNair was the third overall draft pick in 1995 by the Houston Oilers, who eventually became the Titans. He finished his career with 31,304 yards passing and 174 touchdowns. McNair's rugged style led to numerous injuries and aches. He played with pain for several years, and the injuries ultimately forced him to retire.

    "On the field, there isn't a player that was as tough as him, especially at the quarterback position," the Ravens' Derrick Mason said. "What I have seen him play through on the field, and what he dealt with during the week to get ready for a game, I have never known a better teammate."

    During a five-game stretch at the end of the 2002 season, McNair was so bruised he couldn't practice. But he started all five games and won them, leading the Titans to an 11-5 record and a berth in the AFC championship game for the second time in four seasons.

    McNair played all 16 games in 2006, his first season in Baltimore, and guided the Ravens to a 13-3 record. But he injured his groin during the season opener in 2007 and never regained the form that put him in those Pro Bowls.

    "I am deeply saddened to learn of today's tragic news regarding the death of Steve McNair. He was a player who I admired a great deal," said New England Patriots senior football adviser Floyd Reese, who was GM of the Titans when McNair played for them. "He was a tremendous leader and an absolute warrior. He felt like it was his responsibility to lead by working hard every day, no matter what."

    Titans coach Jeff Fisher was out of the country, taking part in the first NFL-USO coaches tour to Iraq.

    Ozzie Newsome, Ravens executive vice president and general manager, said he immediately thought of McNair's four sons.

    "This is so, so sad. We immediately think of his family, his boys. They are all in our thoughts and prayers," he said "What we admired most about Steve when we played against him was his competitive spirit, and we were lucky enough to have that with us for two years. He is one of the best players in the NFL over the last 20 years."

    No funeral arrangements have been made.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a "case closed" but another unusual occurrence - women don't usually commit suicide with a gun, and on paper she didn't seem like the type to do this at all...but I'm sure more will come out regarding her personal history.

    Just horrific bad luck...ya fool around with a cute 20 year old waitress and she shoots and kills ya over it.

    RIP Steve McNair.
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    Very sad news. My prayers to all that knew and loved him.

    brian
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Just horrific bad luck...ya fool around with a cute 20 year old waitress and she shoots and kills ya over it. >>



    Judgment seems at least as appropriate as luck.
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  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 5,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Being an NFL star I cannot believe that this isn't all over the cable channels. I guess there's just too much Michael Jackson to worry about anyone else.


  • << <i>Looks like a "case closed" but another unusual occurrence - women don't usually commit suicide with a gun, and on paper she didn't seem like the type to do this at all...but I'm sure more will come out regarding her personal history.

    Just horrific bad luck...ya fool around with a cute 20 year old waitress and she shoots and kills ya over it.

    RIP Steve McNair. >>




    Women teachers used to not have affairs with little school aged boys either, but boy how things have changed.

    I'm sure the only reason this girl shot and killed McNair was because he threw a beer bottle at her first.
    Very sad.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tenn. police rule ex-QB McNair's death a homicide

    McNair Found Shot To Death WJZ 13 Baltimore By TERESA M. WALKER, AP Sports Writer Teresa M. Walker, Ap Sports Writer – 15 mins ago

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. – Shot twice in the head and two more times in the chest, former NFL quarterback Steve McNair was the victim of a homicide, police declared Sunday. But authorities wouldn't say it was a murder-suicide — even with his 20-year-old girlfriend dead at his feet from a single bullet.

    McNair had been dating Saleh Kazemi for several months, and Nashville police spokesman Don Aaron said Sunday that a semiautomatic pistol was found under her body. She was shot in the head.

    McNair, who was married with four sons, had a permit to carry a handgun in Tennessee, and he was arrested once before with a 9mm weapon although charges in the case were dropped. Police said they had not yet determined who owned the gun found at the scene.

    Investigators weren't looking for a suspect but were questioning friends of the couple as well as Kazemi's ex-boyfriend. They were also waiting for results of drug and other laboratory tests before deciding whether McNair was killed in a lovers' quarrel.

    "That's a very important part of the investigation as we work to ultimately classify Miss Kazemi's death," Aaron said.

    The details surfacing after McNair's death stand in stark contrast to the public persona he enjoyed during his career.

    McNair repeatedly played through serious injuries and pain to win, though he came up a yard short of forcing overtime on the Tennessee Titans' famous drive that came a yard short of forcing overtime in the 2000 Super Bowl.

    Generous, he frequently took part in charity work for both the Titans and later the Baltimore Ravens after a 2006 trade. McNair even helped load donated food, water and clothes onto tractor-trailers that he had arranged for Hurricane Katrina victims, and paid for three football camps for children himself this year.

    McNair and Kazemi were found dead at a Nashville condominium — which overlooks the Titans stadium — that he rented with his friend Wayne Neeley. Police believe both died early Saturday. Neeley found the bodies hours later, and called a friend, Robert Gaddy, who played at Alcorn State with McNair. Gaddy dialed 911.

    "People have certain things that they do in life," Gaddy said. "We don't need to look on the situation at this time (but) on the fact we just lost a great member of society."

    The quarterback's agent, Bus Cook, said he had never heard Kazemi's name until news of the shooting broke Saturday. What McNair's wife knew wasn't clear Sunday. Cook said Mechelle McNair was "in and out of it." He said she had no comment after the police called his death a homicide.

    "It doesn't make any sense. I don't know what to say," Cook said.

    Mechelle was "very upset, very distraught" Sunday, Cook said. She was preparing to finish funeral arrangements Monday.

    McNair split his time between Nashville and his farm in Mount Olive, Miss. He recently opened a restaurant near Tennessee State University that was aimed at serving healthy, affordable food to college students.

    McNair was also seen so often at Kazemi's apartment that a neighbor thought he lived there.

    McNair met Kazemi when his family ate often at the Dave & Buster's restaurant she worked at as a server, and the two began dating in a relationship that included a vacation with parasailing. Photos posted on TMZ.com showed McNair gazing and smiling at the young Kazemi.

    "She pretty obviously got mixed up way over her head with folks," said Reagan Howard, a neighbor of Kazemi's.

    A man who answered the door at a house in the Jacksonville, Fla., suburb of Orange Park said it was the home of Kazemi's family, but said her relatives did not want to comment.

    "We don't have anything to say, please leave us alone," he said.

    The victim's sister, Soheyla Kazemi, told the Florida Times-Union in Jacksonville that the young woman had expected McNair to get a divorce. "She said they were planning to get married."

    Kazemi often was dropped off by limousine in the early morning hours and recently went from driving a Kia to a 2007 Cadillac Escalade registered to both herself and McNair. Her niece told The Tennessean that Kazemi thought McNair was divorcing his wife of 12 years soon.

    Nashville courts had no record of a McNair divorce case, but a home he owned in Nashville is on the market for $3 million.

    The real estate agent declined to comment. Her online listing for property described it as a "gigantic house" of more than 14,000 square feet and photos showed a pool, home theater, baby grand piano and ornate furnishings throughout.

    McNair and Kazemi were together Thursday night when she was pulled over driving that Escalade. She was arrested on a DUI charges, and he was allowed to leave in a taxi even though he was charged with drunken driving in 2007 when his brother-in-law was stopped for DUI while driving McNair's pickup truck.

    McNair led the Titans to the 2000 Super Bowl, which they lost 23-16 to the St. Louis Rams despite his 87-yard drive in the final minute and 48 seconds. He was co-MVP of the NFL with Colts quarterback Peyton Manning in 2003.

    Manning said in a statement Sunday that he had some great battles with the quarterback.

    "Sharing the NFL MVP honor with him in 2003 was special because of what a great football player he was," Manning said. "I had the opportunity to play in a couple of Pro Bowls with him, and the time spent with him in Hawaii I'll never forget. I'll truly miss him."

    The Titans drafted Vince Young in 2006 to replace McNair, who had mentored him since he was a teenager. They never played together but did play against each other that year.

    "He was like a father to me. I hear his advice in my head with everything I do. Life will be very different without him," Young said in a statement Sunday.

    McNair grew up in Mount Olive, Miss., and became a football star at Alcorn State, the Division I-AA school in his home state as he dominated the Southwestern Athletic Conference. He became a Heisman Trophy contender as reporters flocked to little Lorman to watch the man known as "Air McNair."

    He still holds the Division I-AA (now known as Football Championship Subdivision) records for career yards passing (14,496) and total offense (16,823). McNair was drafted in 1995 by the Houston Oilers, who eventually became the Titans.

    Picked four times for the Pro Bowl, McNair finished with 31,304 yards passing and 174 touchdowns. He led both the Titans and Ravens to playoff berths, including two AFC championship game appearances with Tennessee. Injuries finally led to his retirement after the 2007 season

    Besides his wife, McNair is survived his sons Junior, Steven, Tyler and Trenton
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,462 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heard the news today on WRKO, great athlete.
    Air McNair, a true warrior is now gone, terrible.image
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Now the reports/rumors are that the deceased woman purchased the gun which was found at the scene.

    If so, either this is a murder-suicide or one of the most brilliantly masterminded frame-ups in the annals of crime.
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    << <i>Now the reports/rumors are that the deceased woman purchased the gun which was found at the scene.

    If so, either this is a murder-suicide or one of the most brilliantly masterminded frame-ups in the annals of crime. >>



    reports say she was 20 years old. Federal requirement is that one is 21 or older to purchase a handgun. Someone is going to be in trouble for selling that handgun.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Police: McNair girlfriend behind murder-suicide
    21 minutes ago

    By LUCAS L. JOHNSON Associated Press Writer

    NASHVILLE, Tenn.(AP)—Police confirmed Wednesday that ex-NFL star Steve McNair’s(notes) 20-year-old girlfriend killed him before turning the gun on herself.

    They said they may never know what was going through Sahel Kazemi’s mind when she shot McNair in his condominium early Saturday, but interviews with friends led detectives to conclude she was becoming increasingly distraught over events in her life, including financial problems. Police said she also suspected McNair was seeing another woman.

    Police earlier had labeled McNair’s death a homicide, but awaited further tests and investigation before saying for sure what happened.

    At one point, Kazemi told an associate that her “personal life was all screwed up,” Police Chief Ronal Serpas said. She had mounting debts and had been unable to sell her car. Her roommate was moving, which would have doubled her rent.

    “We do know that she was clearly sending a message during the last five to seven days of her life that things were going bad quickly,” Serpas said, though there was no indication she told anyone she planned to harm McNair.

    Serpas said police believe McNair was asleep on a sofa when Kazemi shot him in the head. She then apparently shot him twice in the chest before shooting him again in the head and then shooting herself.

    McNair, a quarterback for the Tennessee Titans most of his career, was shot at a condo he rented with another man. The gun was found underneath Kazemi.

    Kazemi’s family told reporters that the woman was so confident McNair was divorcing his wife of 12 years that she was preparing to sell her furniture and move in with him.

    But associate Mike Mu, who has worked with McNair’s charitable association for years, said McNair’s wife, Mechelle McNair, “didn’t know who this girl is.” No records of divorce proceedings have surfaced.

    Two days before the shooting, police stopped Kazemi driving the Escalade sport utility vehicle that McNair gave her for her birthday in May.

    According to an arrest affidavit, Kazemi had bloodshot eyes and alcohol on her breath. She refused a breath test and told an officer “she was not drunk, she was high.” She was charged with DUI. McNair was with her but not charged. He later made her bail.

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