Architect of Democracy, post anything Jefferson
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Post a coin, medal, or whatever you have with Jefferson. Would like to see a high grade 1903 Jefferson gold dollar.
Happy 4th,
Scott
Happy 4th,
Scott
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Now take away freedom of speech and guns and who is the architect of slavery ?
We knew who our enemies were back in '43.
Love conquers all, but bullets still fly.
I suggest you study what these words really mean. They are not the same at all.
There is more to being an American on the 4th of July than shooting fire crackers and using words that one really does not understand what it's about.
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Damn, and I thought the 4th was all about drinking, and shooting off bottle rockets.
Thanks for the abridged history lesson Rob.
Scott
<< <i>"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; ... the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale". - Thomas Jefferson >>
"A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government."
<< <i>Jefferson had his flaws like any other man. He was a fraud, liar and hypocrite. >>
Robb, I would be interested to know what your comments are based on...
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<< <i>Jefferson had his flaws like any other man. He was a fraud, liar and hypocrite. >>
Robb, I would be interested to know what your comments are based on... >>
Jefferson penned "all men are created equal" despite owning slaves well into the twilight of his life. Only then did he sell them due to being bankrupt.
He supported the Alien and Sedition Acts that were passed under Admas' Presidency only to later, during his own Presidency, repeal it and pardon those who were imprisoned.
He supported the Judiciary Act of 1801, also passed by Adams, only to later repeal it when he became President and removed the judges that were appointed.
Declared and started the First Barbay War despite that being the Constitutional duty of Congress.
Demanded that his VP, Aaron Burr, be tried for treason. When Jefferson was subpoenaed by Chief Justice Marshall he fabricated executive privilege by claiming that as president he didn't have to if he didn't want to. Marshall replied by referring to the Constitution and how it said no such thing so Jefferson gave up and complied.
Years after he left office it was revealed that he took payoffs in the way of money and land given to him by New England businesses and unions due to him passing the Embargo Act of 1807.
Thomas Jefferson was a reliable employee. He was tasked with many different things over the course of his life and he lived up to the expectations of those who were telling him what to do. Authoring the Constitution was just another of those things. He could use the big fancy words so the others gave him their ideas for him to put on paper. As proven on many occasions, Jefferson did not necessarily believe what he was writing.
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<< <i>Jefferson had his flaws like any other man. He was a fraud, liar and hypocrite. >>
Robb, I would be interested to know what your comments are based on... >>
Jefferson penned "all men are created equal" despite owning slaves well into the twilight of his life. Only then did he sell them due to being bankrupt.
He supported the Alien and Sedition Acts that were passed under Admas' Presidency only to later, during his own Presidency, repeal it and pardon those who were imprisoned.
He supported the Judiciary Act of 1801, also passed by Adams, only to later repeal it when he became President and removed the judges that were appointed.
Declared and started the First Barbay War despite that being the Constitutional duty of Congress.
Demanded that his VP, Aaron Burr, be tried for treason. When Jefferson was subpoenaed by Chief Justice Marshall he fabricated executive privilege by claiming that as president he didn't have to if he didn't want to. Marshall replied by referring to the Constitution and how it said no such thing so Jefferson gave up and complied.
Years after he left office it was revealed that he took payoffs in the way of money and land given to him by New England businesses and unions due to him passing the Embargo Act of 1807.
Thomas Jefferson was a reliable employee. He was tasked with many different things over the course of his life and he lived up to the expectations of those who were telling him what to do. Authoring the Constitution was just another of those things. He could use the big fancy words so the others gave him their ideas for him to put on paper. As proven on many occasions, Jefferson did not necessarily believe what he was writing. >>
Dang Robb, lighten up....it was the 18th century for God's sake.
Slaves were certainly treated better in America than by their black slave masters back in Africa!!
Jefferson did far more good for the United States than what you site as his misgivings.
Happy 4th of July!!
No one lives a perfect life. All we can hope for is to be recognized for the good that we do. We are fortunate if the good outweighs the bad.
<< <i>Cant we just have our hero's? We desperately need them. Now excuse me as I am going to go look for a Jefferson image to post. >>
Happy Independence to Class !
<< <i>Cant we just have our hero's? We desperately need them. Now excuse me as I am going to go look for a Jefferson image to post. >>
What ever happened to Senator Jefferson? Was he cleared or not?
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<< <i>Cant we just have our hero's? We desperately need them. Now excuse me as I am going to go look for a Jefferson image to post. >>
What ever happened to Senator Jefferson? Was he cleared or not?
I believe the trial is under way as of June 15th or so.
This guy was a great example of the ineptitude and fraud perpitrated by the U.S. government(not to mention 'schoolbus Ray Nagin') on its solution to the Hurricane Katrina disaster!!
And, in the spirit of some of the posts in this thread, another picture of one of Jamie's drawings titled Other Jefferson. See Link for more info
And one of my favorite toner's
Unfortunately fraud is all around us, it's deeply rooted in our society.
Fraud is everywhere, how many more Bernies are out there? A dozen, two dozen?
Thought it might be fitting to include this shot.
Peace to all,
Scott
Thomas Jefferson inherited his slaves from his father-in-law - he did not 'purchase' them. During most of the time he 'owned' them it was not legal to free them - that was simply not an option; indeed it would have been illegal. No less than thirteen times he sponsored legislation to abolish slavery, only to see it go down to defeat each time. His colleagues in Congress admonished him that if he continued to pursue this issue, his career as a statesman would be over, and that he would then be powerless to help anyone.
"Authoring the Constitution was just another of those things"
Thomas Jefferson played no part whatsoever in the writing of the Constitution - he was in France at the time, and was frustrated that the Constitutional Committee was working without his input, but he did not write even one single word of the Constitution. He did, of course, author the Declaration of Independence, almost single handedly, but it was revised and edited by the Committee of Five and the Continental Congress before it was released. They took 500 words out of his original dicument, leaving the 1332 we know today.
I will now get down off my soapbox and respect the original intent of the OP. I do not mean to hijack this post nor to render it 'political', but it would seem inappropriate to falsely slander one of the greatest Americans who ever lived, especially on the 183rd anniversary of his death, and this day of celebration of our independence that he worked so hard to achieve.
I've got more photos... but just can't get there... sorry.
Steve
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The quotes below could prove his point.
When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe
Thomas Jefferson
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson
Very Interesting Quote:
In light of the present financial crisis, it's interesting to read what Thomas Jefferson said...... in 1802:
Banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If theAmerican people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
Leo
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