145K WLH - Its a beauty! (top pops)
ChrisRx
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Must look even more incredible in-hand!
"Description
A spectacular coin and an unsurpassed rarity. A look at the PCGS Population report immediately reveals the significance of this coin at this grade level. PCGS has certified 28 examples in MS65 (making the 1918-S tied for the seventh rarest date in the series), just one example in MS66, and this, of course, is the lone MS67. This coin betters nearly all of the Gem Uncirculated population by two points.
It is essentially as struck, with slightly better frost on the obverse than reverse. The strike is essentially full, a scarcity among any of the early issues, and a near impossibility for this particular date, one of the worst struck in the series. In fact, the reason more 1918-S specimens have not graded higher than MS65 is due to notoriously poor strikes. The toning is a rich amber on the obverse and a soft violet in the protected areas on reverse. Perhaps a one word descriptor would work best: "Amazing!" Of numismatic note, there are several die cracks on reverse including a prominent line extending from the eagle's left wing to the E in STATES. Ex. GBW. CAC certified. "
Same seller has this one for 89.5k:
"Description
An immaculately preserved example of this Key early Walker. The strike is bold, with Liberty's thumb, head, and skirt lines exceptionally defined. Similarly each feather of the eagle is boldly outlined. The surfaces are in an almost brilliant state, with a touch of champagne toning attesting to the original surfaces. In sum, this is an exquisitely preserved, naturally toned, abundantly appealing example of a highly sought-after date and mint. Even the famed “GBW” and Jack Lee collections contained mere MS66s for this first-year issue. Housed in a first generation rattler holder, and remaining the only MS67 ever graded by PCGS. CAC certified."
"Description
A spectacular coin and an unsurpassed rarity. A look at the PCGS Population report immediately reveals the significance of this coin at this grade level. PCGS has certified 28 examples in MS65 (making the 1918-S tied for the seventh rarest date in the series), just one example in MS66, and this, of course, is the lone MS67. This coin betters nearly all of the Gem Uncirculated population by two points.
It is essentially as struck, with slightly better frost on the obverse than reverse. The strike is essentially full, a scarcity among any of the early issues, and a near impossibility for this particular date, one of the worst struck in the series. In fact, the reason more 1918-S specimens have not graded higher than MS65 is due to notoriously poor strikes. The toning is a rich amber on the obverse and a soft violet in the protected areas on reverse. Perhaps a one word descriptor would work best: "Amazing!" Of numismatic note, there are several die cracks on reverse including a prominent line extending from the eagle's left wing to the E in STATES. Ex. GBW. CAC certified. "
Same seller has this one for 89.5k:
"Description
An immaculately preserved example of this Key early Walker. The strike is bold, with Liberty's thumb, head, and skirt lines exceptionally defined. Similarly each feather of the eagle is boldly outlined. The surfaces are in an almost brilliant state, with a touch of champagne toning attesting to the original surfaces. In sum, this is an exquisitely preserved, naturally toned, abundantly appealing example of a highly sought-after date and mint. Even the famed “GBW” and Jack Lee collections contained mere MS66s for this first-year issue. Housed in a first generation rattler holder, and remaining the only MS67 ever graded by PCGS. CAC certified."
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They are both beautiful coins.
<< <i>They are both beautiful coins. >>
Still...my first thought was
<< <i>Very nice. Not to sound negitive as I try to learn as I go but is it me/monitor or does the 1918 have some chatter on the leg? >>
The leg on the 1916-S looks flat as well. Were there strike issues in 1916, the very first year for the series?
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
<< <i>Too bad you posted the grades - I would have liked to see how many AU58 guesses there were.... >>
The obverse shot of the 1918-S does nothing for it being a top pop.
For that kind of money I don't want to see chatter and weak strikes on the obverse.
and with the imaging skills they posses, they could rejuvenate these two jewels a new level.
For the asking $ I would think that the best imaging devices and personnel would be contacted
and allowed to perform their magic.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
<< <i>For that kind of money I don't want to see chatter and weak strikes on the obverse. >>
I agree which is why I picked the Jack Lee 1921 walker in PCGS MS-66 for my pre 1934 walker type set.
The 1921 issues were the first walker issues to exhibit much stronger details on the obverse.
It would be "simply nice" to see these coins in hand---just to look at them Then, and only then, could you evaluate such lofty grades and prices. JMHO ofcourse. Bob [supertooth]
<< <i>Awhile back, I was advising a board member who had sent me pictures of an MS66 graded Walker. I reminded that member that pictures CANNOT always tell the whole story about a coin's grade. And also told him that, when an insert reaches an MS66 grade, due to the ever rising value of the Walker coin at that level, that I would "almost never" make an assessment of a grade without seeing the coin or coins "IN HAND". It is one thing to risk 500 bucks---but entirely another thing to risk 5,000 or more. Or, in these two cases 89,500 and 145,000.
It would be "simply nice" to see these coins in hand---just to look at them Then, and only then, could you evaluate such lofty grades and prices. JMHO ofcourse. Bob [supertooth] >>
<< <i>They are both beautiful coins. >>
(asked purely to pull TDN's chain)
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<< <i>What's sheet on these?
(asked purely to pull TDN's chain) >>
Day late and a dollar short as usual [see 5th post in thread].
<< <i>Awhile back, I was advising a board member who had sent me pictures of an MS66 graded Walker. I reminded that member that pictures CANNOT always tell the whole story about a coin's grade. And also told him that, when an insert reaches an MS66 grade, due to the ever rising value of the Walker coin at that level, that I would "almost never" make an assessment of a grade without seeing the coin or coins "IN HAND". It is one thing to risk 500 bucks---but entirely another thing to risk 5,000 or more. Or, in these two cases 89,500 and 145,000.
It would be "simply nice" to see these coins in hand---just to look at them Then, and only then, could you evaluate such lofty grades and prices. JMHO ofcourse. Bob [supertooth] >>
ANYONE, who can buy such coins would be well advised to study the coins in hand, that's a given fact. But we do have folks with more money than brains that lack the expertise to make an accurate evaluation to bid accordingly. As for calling the shots from pictures, for the two given/posted coins, same camera/lighting? Assuming this is true, the 1918-S appears to have a full detailed leg while the 1916-S does not. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to note the difference in quality from the pictures. And we can say that a firsthand inspection would be the norm but pictures do raise questions when possible flaws exist whether they be nicks, scratches or for the lack of detail in an area of the strike. I would question the 2nd coin if it was all there for the money.
In this day and age with the state of the market, every bit of info helps and that includes high quality photography because the majority of collectors do not traval to see every coin that interests them. I've looked at and have taken thousands of photos and have made many decisions from them but seldom make a purchase unless I know for certain about the quality of coin I'm buying.
Don't ignore the importance of quality photography but at the same time, know that there is a risk basing your buying decisions on them but for many of us, we have little choice.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
The 1918S has too much chatter on the thumb to warrant a MS67 grade IMHO
Nice coin reguardless
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