Ok, $20 type I gold specialists ( and anybody else) can you guess the grade? Update.

bidask · July 1, 2009 11:11AM

Photography by COINPICTURES.........

I really liked the minimum hits this coin had.....can you guess the grade ?

JazzmanJAB · July 1, 2009 11:40AM

AU 58

Shortie · July 1, 2009 11:40AM

NGC AU-58

bidask · July 1, 2009 11:54AM

Damn, you 2 guys are good.....its an NGC 58 indeed,

PerryHall · July 1, 2009 10:45PM

Nice original color and clean surfaces.

messydesk · July 1, 2009 11:26PM

Oooh! I like that coin!

notwilight · July 1, 2009 11:30PM

I know nothing about gold but the number that came to mind is 58. Scrolling down I see others had the same feeling. --Jerry

speety · July 1, 2009 11:31PM

Or they just clicked properties and saw NGC AU-58 under the file name

maibockaddict · July 1, 2009 11:39PM

Wierd because the surfaces appear to be hairlined. But then, that could just be from contact marks. Appears to have 55-58 wear and has a nice color to it...

fcloud · July 1, 2009 11:45PM

AUandAG · July 2, 2009 12:49AM

92, cleaned

Genuine, but nice

IF it graded, AU55

bob

crypto79 · July 2, 2009 5:03AM

<< 92, cleaned

Genuine, but nice

IF it graded, AU55

bob >>

I'm with him, It it mark free but has been wiped

ColonialCoinUnion · July 2, 2009 5:09AM

<< 92, cleaned

Genuine, but nice

IF it graded, AU55

bob >>

I'm thinking Bob knows what he's talking about.

Shortie · July 2, 2009 5:12AM

<< 

<< 92, cleaned

Genuine, but nice

IF it graded, AU55

bob >>

I'm thinking Bob knows what he's talking about. >>

Really? I do not think he has a clue.

stinkinlincoln · July 2, 2009 5:23AM

Why ask for grade opinions and then give the grade away after two guesses?

Also, I like the rev die cracks around UNITED STATES. Grades in the AU's, but wiped like other have said.

PerryHall · July 2, 2009 6:31AM

<< 

<< 

<< 92, cleaned

Genuine, but nice

IF it graded, AU55

bob >>

I'm thinking Bob knows what he's talking about. >>

Really? I do not think he has a clue. >>

I think you're right.

ambro51 · July 2, 2009 6:39AM

From what I understand NGC is a bit forgiving with hairlines and /or very light cleaning on century and half old gold. But, I may wrong about that, though I think I read it on their website once.....something to that effect.

coinkat · July 2, 2009 7:30AM

If this coin was enhanced, it was done in isolated areas and it if that was done, then the lustre would be inconsistent on the coin. Without seeing this in hand, it looks original.

I like the coin- 55 seems right, however, I could be persuaded after seeing it in hand to change my opinion

Hussulo · July 2, 2009 7:57AM

The die brake through UNITED STATES is interesting. Is that typical for this date/type?

BloodMan · July 2, 2009 8:29AM

The lighting conditions may be enhancing the appearance of the abrasions. Based on the image, the luster seems to be somewhat subdued (but again could be lighting). There is slight wear/rub on the portrait and on the upper wing and tips. I think a grade of AU55 or 58 is appropriate, and I agree that the coin has relatively few significant contact marks/hits. Overall, a nice example of this first year of issue double eagle.

Die cracks on the reverse along the peripheral lettering are very common for this issue. Also, this is the closed 5 variety.

The 1850 is always in high demand as the first year of issue, but is actually more common than many Philadelphia Type 1’s. You might be surprised to learn that PCGS has graded 729 1850 $20’s in all grades, yet only 455 1851 $20’s in all grades (1851 is considered a "common" date in the series).

bidask · August 12, 2009 4:46AM

Crossed to PCGS at AU 58.......now I am going to try for the bean!

AUandAG · August 12, 2009 4:48AM

Genuine. Cleaned. or AU53

bob

EDITED: Oooops, I already guessed a bit higher on a different day. But, I stayed with cleaned!

Stuart · August 12, 2009 7:54AM

I saw that you have already posted the grade, and NGC has the advantage of examining the coin in person. However, just for fun, after examining the photos that you provided earlier in this thread, I'd grade the obverse an AU-58 and the reverse an AU-53 for a net grade of AU-55.

stinkinlincoln · August 12, 2009 7:57AM

<<Crossed to PCGS at AU 58.......now I am going to try for the bean>>

I guess PCGS is a bit forgiving as well...

oreville · August 12, 2009 9:10AM

I agree with Stuart. AU-55 as well.

darktone · August 12, 2009 11:30AM

I am sorry but I have to say it's been cleaned as well. AU58 seems to be in line with the way these are graded.

bidask · September 8, 2009 7:52AM

This coin crossed to PCGS as a AU 58 and I was just told today it got the CAC bean .

RYK · September 8, 2009 8:01AM

I saw the coin in hand and was, apparently, wrong in my assessment.

Connecticoin · September 8, 2009 8:01AM

PCGS 53, NGC 58

relicsncoins · September 8, 2009 8:53AM

I was going to say AU55 before I saw the grade. I did forget to hit the NGC calibration button on my grading machine and that could explain my 3 point deviation.

BloodMan · September 8, 2009 8:56AM

Based on the limited wear and relatively few abrasions, I think it looks AU55-AU58.

1850 was the most abundant double eagle in the Baltimore Coin hoard with 92 coins uncovered. It is not unreasonable to think that this coin could have been among that group.

There is an excellent interview on the subject in the link below.

Baltimore Gold Coin Hoard Thread

JungleFever · September 8, 2009 10:07AM

http://www.numismotography.com/commercial/bidask/usa_

20D_1850_NGC_AU58_o.jpg

No guessing involved, it's embedded in your coin

Ok, $20 type I gold specialists ( and anybody else) can you guess the grade? Update.

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