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1875 S/S Twent Cent Piece...a listed variety?

One of my recent purchases included this nice twenty center. Looking at the mint mark I noted that it is clearly an S over S. I did the best that I could with the close-ups and you can clearly see another set of serifs for the underlying S. I checked Cherrypickers and there isn't much on the 20centers...is this a common variety?
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    yes.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,503 ✭✭✭✭✭
    common. Your pics also show the top of a digit from a misplaced date (in the dentils below the date)
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    FS-20-1875S-302 RPM#1, MPD#1, S/S "$"

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    Worthy of a slight premium (10-25% IMO).
  • Thanks to all for your expert opinions. One more question...is this a vf or does it merit an xf designation?
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe that the reason it is not listed in the Cherrypickers Guide is that it is so common it has no premium, and therefore buying one is not considered a cherry pick.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    Capt,

    It IS a Cherrypicker variety - at least the misplaced date part of it is (although I find the $ S/S more interesting).

    While the date without the MPD is scarcer than one with, ones with both the MPD & RPM are scarcer than both I believe.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You have what is commonly referred to as the "$" variety. So far, it is only known to be married with the "5 in the dentils" obverse die. Occasionally, a rotated reverse with the same die marriage can be found.

    Some dealers do charge a premium as it is a "scarce" variety. However, nobody really collects this denomination by variety (or even collects the denomination!) so it is very easy to cherrypick. Far more common are double dimes with a clear, distinct mintmark.

    A study I did in 1993 looked at the mintmark varieties in a collection of double dimes yielded the following:

    Table: Sampling of 195 1875-S Twenty Cent Piece Mintmarks

    Mintmark Style --- Number --- Percent
    Clear S --- 129 --- 66.2%
    Clear S/S --- 17 --- 8.7%
    Filled S/S --- 14 --- 7.2%
    “$ Variety” --- 35 --- 17.9%
    From: "Mintmark varieties of the 1875-S twenty-cent piece. Errorscope 2003;12(3):5-7."

    Here are examples of the mintmarks (sorry for the large images)...

    Clear S
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    Clear S/S
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    Filled S/S
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    "$ Variety"
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    Lane

    P.S. Your coin is a cleaned EF-40

    Edited to try and fix the table...
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Duplicate post ... image
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i saw half a dozen of the various s/s today and passed on them all. if they were in holders and/or were uncleaned i probably woulda picked them up.
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