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1875 S/S Twent Cent Piece...a listed variety?

One of my recent purchases included this nice twenty center. Looking at the mint mark I noted that it is clearly an S over S. I did the best that I could with the close-ups and you can clearly see another set of serifs for the underlying S. I checked Cherrypickers and there isn't much on the 20centers...is this a common variety?
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    yes.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    common. Your pics also show the top of a digit from a misplaced date (in the dentils below the date)
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    RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    FS-20-1875S-302 RPM#1, MPD#1, S/S "$"

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    Worthy of a slight premium (10-25% IMO).
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    Thanks to all for your expert opinions. One more question...is this a vf or does it merit an xf designation?
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe that the reason it is not listed in the Cherrypickers Guide is that it is so common it has no premium, and therefore buying one is not considered a cherry pick.
    TD
    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    Capt,

    It IS a Cherrypicker variety - at least the misplaced date part of it is (although I find the $ S/S more interesting).

    While the date without the MPD is scarcer than one with, ones with both the MPD & RPM are scarcer than both I believe.
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You have what is commonly referred to as the "$" variety. So far, it is only known to be married with the "5 in the dentils" obverse die. Occasionally, a rotated reverse with the same die marriage can be found.

    Some dealers do charge a premium as it is a "scarce" variety. However, nobody really collects this denomination by variety (or even collects the denomination!) so it is very easy to cherrypick. Far more common are double dimes with a clear, distinct mintmark.

    A study I did in 1993 looked at the mintmark varieties in a collection of double dimes yielded the following:

    Table: Sampling of 195 1875-S Twenty Cent Piece Mintmarks

    Mintmark Style --- Number --- Percent
    Clear S --- 129 --- 66.2%
    Clear S/S --- 17 --- 8.7%
    Filled S/S --- 14 --- 7.2%
    “$ Variety” --- 35 --- 17.9%
    From: "Mintmark varieties of the 1875-S twenty-cent piece. Errorscope 2003;12(3):5-7."

    Here are examples of the mintmarks (sorry for the large images)...

    Clear S
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    Clear S/S
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    Filled S/S
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    "$ Variety"
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    Lane

    P.S. Your coin is a cleaned EF-40

    Edited to try and fix the table...
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i saw half a dozen of the various s/s today and passed on them all. if they were in holders and/or were uncleaned i probably woulda picked them up.
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