(2) 1968 P Roosevelts....opinions of grade please...Update..grades are in..

SUMORADA

Thank you in advance....all opinions welcome.








10/19/09 Update
I sent these ATS........the top one came back MS64, the bottom one.......MS65FT.

darktone

SUMORADA

edited for being a little too sensitive...

cladking

I started to post this earlier but it seemed pretty negative
too. I really like these since they have such nice even strikes
but the services can be harsh with these. Maybe someone
else will see more more positively.

They look like roll coins and these are about as good as you
can find in rolls. Rolls of this date are pretty tough to find.

The carbon spots will hurt the second one. The first could
get Ms-66 with the bump but I don't think it will. Both look
like they could go FT.

greghansen

I'd call the first one MS65 and the second one MS64. I don't think either are FT. Not my series, but to my eye they don't have much going for them in the way of luster, so if the pictures are accurate I think that limits them significantly. If these are really flashy coins and it just don't show in the image, it might carry a point extra on each.

DIMEMAN

It's really always hard to tell about the bands in pics because you can't see the edges. As far as grade it looks like there isn't much luster and there are spots. The graders are really hard on Roosies so it could go anywhere from 63 to 65 tops in my opinion. Try looking thru mint sets is all I can suggest. That's how I found my 1969-P and it only got 65. And it looked better than both of these. And I had to look thru about 50 or 60 mint sets to find it.

Edited to add. I just remembered my coin came back 64 and I bought the 65 from Paul (Stooge), so these based on that are not worth sending in. JMHO.

3rdtry

I've submitted dozens of 68-p dimes. I got graded maybe 8 or 9 66fb coins and 1 ms67. First... it's very hard to grade from pictures. Second... it's very hard to predict what pcgs will do. (Actually, I cracked out and tried the best 66fb again for 67fb, and it came back 66 no band. I didn't think there was any chance of that happening). Okay... so that being said... I think your coins could go 65 no band on a bad day and 66fb on a good day (less chance of that on the second one). It's virtually impossible to get a 67fb these days.

sinin1

I don't see the luster (and eye appeal) that PCGS needs for gem


the 2nd coin has a couple spots that distracts even more


the bands look like a possibility - I have found the lower right edge a limiter for me and from this angle I can not determine yes or no but definitely possible




it could be just lighting and angle, but surfaces seem dull/dead to me


I'll go with MS63 for first and MS64 for second


what are those spots? a long soak in acetone can't hurt (they won't even put in genuine slab if they think PVC)

Numismanic

First one MS65 no full band, second one MS64FB.

darktone

ksteelheader

Both coins 64 No bands.

GritsMan

Okay, I'm stumped. What is "FT"?

anablep

Full torch.

GritsMan

<< <i>Full torch. >>



Ah, thanks. BTW, I find threads like this very useful. Thanks for posting the photos!

cladking

<< <i>Okay, I'm stumped. What is "FT"? >>




I really should have used FB (full bands) since I don't think the
second one has a ghost of a chance for FT.

SUMORADA

btt......grades in first post.

cladking

<< <i>btt......grades in first post. >>




Thanks for the update.

They were a little harsh with the first one.