Help me justify $$ behind .5 grade differences.
akuracy503
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I usually don't buy high grade vintage but help me justify something here.....
Let me bring you example PSA 8 - $450 card
Let me bring you example PSA 9 - $3000 card
Then there is that special one that a human eye deemed "8.5", the card closely inspected looks just a notch down from all the 9's in the same card (could even pass for a 9) but would still be hard to find an 8 that looked like it...
The centering is 50/50, edges clean as heck and corners are on par with the best 8.
On that note a 8.5 is priced at around $1200
Would you even consider buying this for personal collection, the 8.5 is a 1/1 with 17 9's in existance.
Like I mentioned I usually buy cards not grades....so this is a new perspective for me.
With humor I would say that this card if resubmitted would pass as a 8 or 9 depending on how the grader felt that day....being that it's a 1/1 chances are it'll fall as an 8 98% of the time.
Help me justify....
Let me bring you example PSA 8 - $450 card
Let me bring you example PSA 9 - $3000 card
Then there is that special one that a human eye deemed "8.5", the card closely inspected looks just a notch down from all the 9's in the same card (could even pass for a 9) but would still be hard to find an 8 that looked like it...
The centering is 50/50, edges clean as heck and corners are on par with the best 8.
On that note a 8.5 is priced at around $1200
Would you even consider buying this for personal collection, the 8.5 is a 1/1 with 17 9's in existance.
Like I mentioned I usually buy cards not grades....so this is a new perspective for me.
With humor I would say that this card if resubmitted would pass as a 8 or 9 depending on how the grader felt that day....being that it's a 1/1 chances are it'll fall as an 8 98% of the time.
Help me justify....
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I cant justify it unless your in a pitched battle on the registry and have plenty of extra cash you dont know what to do with.
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<< <i>I usually don't buy high grade vintage but help me justify something here.....
Let me bring you example PSA 8 - $450 card
Let me bring you example PSA 9 - $3000 card
Then there is that special one that a human eye deemed "8.5", the card closely inspected looks just a notch down from all the 9's in the same card (could even pass for a 9) but would still be hard to find an 8 that looked like it...
The centering is 50/50, edges clean as heck and corners are on par with the best 8.
On that note a 8.5 is priced at around $1200
Would you even consider buying this for personal collection, the 8.5 is a 1/1 with 17 9's in existance.
Like I mentioned I usually buy cards not grades....so this is a new perspective for me.
With humor I would say that this card if resubmitted would pass as a 8 or 9 depending on how the grader felt that day....being that it's a 1/1 chances are it'll fall as an 8 98% of the time.
Help me justify.... >>
If it is worth it, yes. The price is commensurate with the grade, and if the grade is truly an 8.5, it would be worth it. Furthermore, this half grade clearly reflects the "premium quality" over an 8 card.
<< <i>Hows this? You could crack out that 8.5 and resubmit and I bet 7/10 times it will prolly come back in an 8 holder as opposed to an 8.5. My theory is buy the 8 and crack it out 10 times and maybe you will get lucky and it will bump...ofcourse there is always a chance it could come back a 7 or 7.5
I cant justify it unless your in a pitched battle on the registry and have plenty of extra cash you dont know what to do with. >>
Well said.
Brian
<< <i>I currently value 8.5's at a 20 to 40% premium over 8's as I have seen some 8.5s of 60s and 70s HOFs bring straight 8 prices. 7.5's are even lower. Only in pitched registry wars does the 0.5 really boost the value that much. Alot of dealers value the 0.5s at 0% premium. >>
Do they value the 0.5s at 0% premium only when buying and not selling?
Steve
1963 Topps Sandy Koufax PSA 8.5
My favorite Koufax card, I have 2 of these cards in raw form, would eventually like to purchase a high graded version, like I mentioned before the difference between 8-9 in these cards is noticable but very miniscule.
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That Koufax will sell just as high in the 0.5 as a super centered 8 would.
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<< <i>Based on feedback from resubmissions, it seems PSA is more stringent on giving half grades. It seems the best 8.5s should be a lot nicer than the worst 9s (and there are many such examples out there). >>
This does seem to be the trend (i.e. half grades are sparse). Using PSA 8's as an example, when the system was first announced, in my simple mind, I deduced that if you lined up all of the PSA 8's in the world of a given card and were somehow able to perfectly order them by quality, 1/2 of those cards would become PSA 8.5's (i.e. the upper 50%). This is clearly not the case. Instead, it seems that perhaps 10-15% of PSA 8's get the 1/2 grade bump, which would mean that a PSA 8.5 card is in the 85-90th percentile (quality-wise), which would then mean that the value should be perhaps closer to 1/2 way between the value of an 8 and a 9.
Take this for what it's worth, I went to Michigan State. Where's Boopotts when you need him?
1/1....is he kidding?
His feedback blows too.
Steve