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Picked up a 1976 autographed Walter Payton rookie card (maybe picked it up :) )


I saw this listing on ebay last night:

Walter Payton autographed rookie card

I immediately requested a PSA/DNA quick opinion, and 10 minutes later, it came back as "Likely Genuine". Seller has low feedback but 100%, however only a rating of 35 over 5 years. I quickly check feedback and see that their selling feedback is all over 90 days, but they do have some buying activity recently. Old football media guides, so I hope they are just a football collector in need of a little cash. I check to make sure auciton is covered by paypal buyer protection and it is for full amount so I executed buy it now and paid immediately.

This morning, seller emails me with this:

"Hello,
Thank you for the purchase, you will not be disappointed. There is a small problem, however. Apparently, because I have only been involved in 35 eBay transactions (100%), the payment you sent is being held until you submit feedback. I do not feel that comfortable sending the card without having the payment. Long story short, can you submit feedback now? I know it's odd, and I understand if you do not want to. The transaction may just take longer if not done, because I would have to wait to ship it. Either way, you will receive your item. Thanks again."

He (or she, who knows) also provided their contact info. I called him immediately and told him that would not be acceptable, that I wouldn't leave feedback until received and I was happy with it, and explained to him that the system is in place to protect the buyer, and that he was protected as well since paypal was holding his funds in "escrow" kind of. He said he understood that now and would ship out today.

I guess I'll just have to wait and see if I get it or not. I sure would like to have it, but I feel protected by paypal anyway in case things go awry. I'm flying out to LA on Wednesday, but hopefully when I return Saturday night, it will be waiting for me. I did tell him that if he Expressed Mailed it today and I got it tomorrow, that I would have his funds released BEFORE I left for my trip. That seemed to go over pretty well, so I might get it Expressed Mailed tomorrow.

I'm not adding this to my HOF signed rookie card thread yet, until it's in my hands safely. Most of them, I add immediately upon purchase, but this one has me feeling some doubts.

Sorry for the rambling thread, just wanted to put this out there. Could be fun to see who thinks I'll actually receive it, and who thinks i won't.

Here's the Payton by the way (nice card at a very reasonable price if I get it!)

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  • Yes, that HOLD on funds is terrible. You'd think Paypal would do that on larger transactions, like a fake 52 Mantle sale. They are currently holding $40 of my money and I can't get it until the person leaves me feedback and/or 21 days.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks nice -- love the school photos.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • That sig looks legit...

    I have met walter payton when I was in chicago I worked for United Airlines, his office was in the building where we were.

    I saw him at the cafeteria all the time but never had the nerve to go up to him.

    One day I finally did and he was as nice as could be. I told him I was sorry to bother him but I was a huge fan and he was my favorite player of all time and could I bother him for an autograph.

    He took the menu (A paper mat) and turned it over and signed it for me.

    I saw him almost once a week and he always said " Good morning Felicia" or "How are you doing Felicia". I was amazed he remembered my name, we stopped and had small talk on more than
    one occasion.

    Of all the autos you have, I can assure you this is one of the ones you should cherish, god took him from us way to early and he truly was a great human being.

    Just thought Id share..

    If you want me to scan and show you his auto mike I will do so....

    Felicia
    The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
    Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That sig looks legit...

    I have met walter payton when I was in chicago I worked for United Airlines, his office was in the building where we were.

    I saw him at the cafeteria all the time but never had the nerve to go up to him.

    One day I finally did and he was as nice as could be. I told him I was sorry to bother him but I was a huge fan and he was my favorite player of all time and could I bother him for an autograph.

    He took the menu (A paper mat) and turned it over and signed it for me.

    I saw him almost once a week and he always said " Good morning Felicia" or "How are you doing Felicia". I was amazed he remembered my name, we stopped and had small talk on more than
    one occasion.

    Of all the autos you have, I can assure you this is one of the ones you should cherish, god took him from us way to early and he truly was a great human being.

    Just thought Id share..

    If you want me to scan and show you his auto mike I will do so....

    Felicia >>



    Hi Felicia,

    Sure, I'd love to see your Payton. Sounds like he was a courteous person.

    Mike
    Buying US Presidential autographs
  • here you go mike...


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    The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
    Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Is that a smiley face in his graph?

    Mike
    Buying US Presidential autographs
  • yes he did that for me...isn't that cool!!
    The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
    Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Felicia ... that a real kewl auto! Enjoy it always!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭
    They didn't call him Sweetness for nothing... by all accounts a class act on and off the field.

    I would hold off for a "better" signature personally. The positioning on that one is really distracting to me and the signature isn't as clear as many examples. Payton, fortunately, signed a ton before he was taken from us all.

    I have a number of Payton autos with this one being my favorite for some reason.

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    Snorto~
  • CARDSANDCOINSCARDSANDCOINS Posts: 340 ✭✭✭
    Elsnorto,
    I sold you that ball on Ebay right!
    Cardsandcoins
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