All-Star Program Inserts and player's Master Set Registries

tunahead08

I've noticed that some player's Master Registries are including 2 and 4 card panels from the hand-cut All-Star Program cards. With the different ways you can cut these panels up, you could potentially add 9 variations to the Master Registry. A good example of this is the #1 Robin Yount Master set, with the 1981 and 1983 All-Star Program. It just seems to me like an artificial way to bolster the number of potential cards in a player registry. Does anyone else find it silly to include all these "variations"? I've been seeing the same thing with the 1983 Fleer Stamps as well.

MULLINS5

I'm just trying to get a clearer picture here. Are you saying that the collector doesn't cut each card individually, having two graded in the same holder?


Patrick

tunahead08

Basically they were sheets with 30 players on each sheet. PSA had been grading the individual players cut from these sheets, but now I'm starting to see people cut panels of 2 or 4 players and these are getting accepted into the Master Registry. Take a look at the 1981 and 1983 All-Star Program Inserts on this Yount registry and you will see what I'm talking about. In theory, with the bigger PSA holders, people could also start making bigger panels of players and start getting these accepted into the registry as well. It just seems kind of absurd.

mikeschmidt

It's even worse on the Schmidt Registry...

look at all the silliness with the All-Star Inserts, the Fleer Stamps, etc.

Linky-Doo

It is profoundly ludicrous

tunahead08

<< <i>It's even worse on the Schmidt Registry...

look at all the silliness with the All-Star Inserts, the Fleer Stamps, etc.

Linky-Doo

It is profoundly ludicrous >>



Wow... the Fleer Stamps are worse than the All-Star ones. See I have no problem with things like Hostess and Drake's panels, as they came as 2-3 cards. But when you have things like these, where you can cut them 20 different ways and call it a variations, that's just stupid!

Robby

I am curious as to what year ( or years ) these All-Star Program cards first started ? As for listing all the possible variations in a Player Master Set , I agree that it is reduntant and makes collecting a Master set that much more expensive ! With the Bar being raised to 95% in 2010 to qualify for a Set Registry award , mutiply variations of this kind of thing would make it very difficult to get to the 95% mark ! I hope Psa reconsiders this , and just make one variation to list in the Sets affected by this !
Dave ' Robbie ' Robinson

ROCKDJRW

I agree that that is garbage! In the Payton registry they have the 1976 Coke Disc with the tab and without the tab!! Are you kidding me?? I have the one with the tab so don't I essentially also have the one without the tab since I can just remove it? Thanks for letting my vent.

jeffcbay

I noticed that when I was trying to fill the 1993 Fleer Stamps slot in my B&CI Ripken Set. I bought an entire set of stamps, just to get the Ripken, and I cut out the Ripken by itself. That set is pretty annoying. As a player collector, I would rather have just that one player in the slab.

flatfoot816

same with Yaz Master Set....more discs than you can count

jackstraw

<< <i>I agree that that is garbage! In the Payton registry they have the 1976 Coke Disc with the tab and without the tab!! Are you kidding me?? I have the one with the tab so don't I essentially also have the one without the tab since I can just remove it? Thanks for letting my vent. >>



I would not argue that but to have 9 diffrent versions of a card just because you cut the card with the card to the right,left,above,below,two to the right,above,below,left .
Then one below and above,one to the left and the right is just getting silly.

jradke4

well the list goes on. you have all the sticker variations from late topps issues with the stickercard backs plus sticker fronts. then move on to topps finest with the coatings or without. i mean this all gets quite silly. and i am a player collector.

Robby

<< <i>I am curious as to what year ( or years ) these All-Star Program cards first started ? As for listing all the possible variations in a Player Master Set , I agree that it is reduntant and makes collecting a Master set that much more expensive ! With the Bar being raised to 95% in 2010 to qualify for a Set Registry award , mutiply variations of this kind of thing would make it very difficult to get to the 95% mark ! I hope Psa reconsiders this , and just make one variation to list in the Sets affected by this !
Dave ' Robbie ' Robinson >>




To answer my own question about when these All-Star Program insert cards first started , I checked the Pop Reports and it appears they started in 1981 ..................if there are any earlier versions , I would like to hear about them !

DavidPuddy

I'm pretty sure that the All Star game inserts did start in 81 for the Cleveland All star game.

I completely agree with the issue here. This is something that PSA should take a look at. 74 Topps stamps, All Star game inserts, Fleer stamps, etc. What about 2 card Hostess panels? Can those be sent in for gradding?
I'm one of the crazy master set builders that wants EVERYTHING that can be slabbed of the players that I collect, so if I actually try to collect all the Ted Simmons Variations that can be made just by cutting something a little differently it will take the master set from about 200 items to about 275 items. Just silly.
Don't forget, if you send All Star panels, and Stamp panels in for slabbing as a Tall Boy, or Super Size, you can have even more silly combinations.



Or, are we just whining?

tunahead08

I think a good solution for this would be to have only 2 ways they could be slabbled: as an individual hand-cut card, or as the entire panel when possible (i.e. 3 cards for hostess, 2-3 cards for Drake's, etc.). If the entire panel of players cannot fit in a PSA holder (30 player A.S. Game panels) then only the single card will count for the registry.

tunahead08

Looks like this BS will soon be coming to the Cal Ripken registry... complete with a new way to cut the All-Star panels and get them slabbed:

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And a Drake's panel that should be 3 cards slabbed as 2:
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