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Straight 7?

Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Bought this on ebay a couple days ago (before today's pop) - I agreed with the sellers assertion (and psa grading guidelines) that the ST qualifier seemed harsh as a 7 grade allows for minor wax staining on the reverse. If not a HOFer, no way this card gets a qualifier in my opinion. What do you think?

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Mike
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  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    after seeing that Maris on here a few weeks ago without the qualifier, yes I would definitely agree with you!
  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭
    From the scan, you are definitely right. An ST qualifier for that card is a bit harsh.
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  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    Ah, you're the reason I didn't win that card. Resub, and nice pickup!!!!!

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  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Silliness. Should be a straight 7.
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  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    You could try removing the wax stain with a nylon and re-subbing. Most collectors (myself included) do not feel that this is alteration of a card and therefore legit.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>You could try removing the wax stain with a nylon and re-subbing. Most collectors (myself included) do not feel that this is alteration of a card and therefore legit. >>



    You are not going to be able to remove a wax stain from a non-glossy back of a vintage card. You are basically trying to remove dried wax from a 50 year old piece of paper.

    I would crack it and sub to SGC. Would probably grade in the 80+ range and obviously without a qualifier to hurt the value when you sale it.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What do you think the odds of a PSA review resulting in a straight 7 are? Really, if they'd read their own grading standards it should work - no?
    Mike
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    1959 Topps are smooth enough on the back where a nylon/fabric softener sheet might work.

    If you see it on top of the card chances are it will come off.


    I have a 69 WL Mantle with a similar stain.

    Steve

    Good for you.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The card arrived yesterday -- here's a better scan.

    It is even more minor than I thought, but the lower left corner is a little worse than I thought -- so a crackout has some risk...

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    Mike
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  • lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i would leave it alone. you have a risk in saying that you are worried about the corners that the next grader may downgrade the card to a six if you regrade it.
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looking at the minor wax stain I agree there should be no qualifier, but if you are unsure of the lower left corner I would not crack and resub.

    Maybe just do a review...Donato
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  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If everyone agrees the ST was not warranted, so will a future purchaser. No need to resub. The stain is staying on there no matter what you do. Good point about a downgrade risk regardless.

    This is the kind of card you don't sell on EBAY. Under $400 for that card is a steal.
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