2009-S 4 Coin Lincoln Set PCGS 70 DCAM
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Edited to say i currently have a copy of 5 singles for sale as well as a Native American in 70DC 2009-S Lincoln Formative Years PCGS 70 DCAM No Reserve!
2009-S Lincoln Early Childhood PCGS 70 DCAM
2009-S Lincoln Presidency PCGS 70 DCAM
2009-S Lincoln Presidency PCGS 70 DCAM
2009-S Lincoln Early Childhood PCGS 70 DCAM
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Don't be so hard on Mark. It's not much different than if he ran a (first run) movie theater and you preferred to wait until the movie came to Netflix.
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
Datentype - Can you REALLY tell the difference between a Proof 69 and a Proof 70 ? I know that I have difficulty and I also know that I have to pay $300 for a proof 70
because I don't know Jack Schit about the difference. I'll bet Jim Halperin also can not tell the difference
Do you think that PCGS manipulates and controls the amount of Proof 70's given out ?
Stewart
So, i guess the answer is that definitively I can and at the sake of tooting my own horn too much I would say that with this modern stuff from the 60's to current I can grade coins either ms or proof at PCGS standards as this is how I have made a living for over 10 years. I simply do not turn the junk in and pay grading bills for just plastic that is not profitable.
As far as maniplulating the supply and demand at PCGS, I can honestly say they can not possibly do this with me as i do not just turn in sets blindly. I turn in only 70's (if that is what i'm working on) and might possibly have much higher quality that other people if they do indeed hand out coins that are not 70's as you might be suggesting with your comment.
One more thing here, I do not even see that these sets have 50% 69dc in them and just a fraction of 1% real 70's only for my batch. 69's have a pretty wide rangeand 70's do not as they do not have any weaknesses at all. These are the absolute facts from my end of things.
Each or for all four total?
If it's to high in "your" opinion, you have the right to look elsewhere.
But dogging his thread is "not" your right.
He has a good eye and that makes him a living.
Pricing Moderns is very tough and everyone always complains.
If we get too much inventory and sell it rapid fire style the prices dip.
At the end of the day, the dealers take big risks to bring us the coins we need.
Goodluck on the auctions Mark!
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<< <i>Their will be more PR70DCAM Lincolns >>
Coming Soon
<< <i><< Their will be more PR70DCAM Lincolns >>
Coming Soon >>
We have some coins done & on their way to us. As you mentioned in your posts, the 70s are few and far in between. Before we're done, we will submit at least a thousand 4-coin sets of these Lincolns, so the 70s will be available for sale. We will have 70s in the Lincoln Commemorative label, so likely we'll be selling to a different audience than those that want to buy the blue labels from you. Since you're likely done submitting already, I'm sure you'll sell out very fast.
Good luck with your sales,
Seth
<< <i>Yeah, yeah, yeah....................it's always you 2 that say they are gonna have what i already have real soon. >>
Shipping to us tomorrow
With more to come, sell away
Good luck with your sales
Warm regards from Thailand,
Wondercoin
<< <i>But dogging his thread is "not" your right. >>
Right on Dan!
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<< <i>Their will be more PR70DCAM Lincolns >>
Leave it to Taz and Seth, I am expecting to see many from them!
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<< <i>Yeah, right! PCGS graded? There aren't even any others graded except for mine at this point as far as a I can tell. There is some bozo dealer down in Carlsbad, California that is advertising them before they are even finished being graded from PCGS. I assume this might be Wondercoin's connection, since they live in the same area and Mitch is out of town. Tell me people is it really ethical to advertise coins that are not graded before you even get them. I guess it is a pre-sale on garded coins? Risky but to me this is just us greedy dealers battling over each other.......me first.........me first.................... no not them.............I have them too buy from me - mine will be ready any day and i know they will give me some. heck, maybe Stewart is right???? >>
Greedy...hmmm. I personally have a problem with a dealer running to ebay with the first set that comes back from PCGS and trying to get moon money for it like PCGS will never grade another one. That is how I define "greedy". On many of my presidents I purposely hold the top grades until the pops mature so I can price them fairly. And yes, I have enough coins in that there is no risk of me not getting 70s. I think it is a win/win to protect the customer in such a situation. Signed, Bozo
<< <i>Warm regards from Thailand, Wondercoin >>
Have a Great Time in Thailand !!!!
So much fun, all of us chatting again. Thanks Mark
So notwilight, you are doing a service to the customers and protecting them from a dealer who made .05% first? Let me just tell you I thought after examining them that only 1 or 2 were perfect and was super excited about having 10 in hand and I clearly asked too much and that was adjusted to the right price and it sold.
Let me also just say, I was thinking pre 1983 bronze 70DC prices and not 2000-2008 copper plated zinc prices. Reality is they will fall somewhere in between. When you are the only one who has something you can ask what you want. I did not even expect to sell it for my original price but thought it was good for the hobby to advertise it high at first rather than immediately run it down by flooding the market as others do. It’s the greedy modern game we play and when I mentioned greedy earlier in a previous post I was putting my self into that category, so no need for you to. I really like to stick to no reserve auctions and nearly 100% of my auctions are that way just for this reason.
I guess what blows me away are people saying they will for sure have a bunch of them and pre-selling them in coin world adds and Ebay when they have not even pre-screened 1 coin themselves. Enough of this bickering back and forth. It’s kind of entertaining but I have work to attend to.
Edited to add that PCGS knows that these guys are pre-selling and they let it happen. Is it PCGS that is to blame for playing down to the dealers game or is it PCGS that drives them to do it by offering promises etc. This gets messy, i have no problem with any of my business with PCGS right now as they are great to deal with and fast! This is the only sucking up i will do...........Henry Kissinger signing off.
Warm regards from Thailand,
Wondercoin
<< <i>"The four-coin set is indeed graded by PCGS and is available from Chattanooga Coin Co. Pics of the coins are in their ad. "
So how come I choose to get four standard blue labels for my collection? Steve
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<< <i>I will give Mark a plug here. He has a great eye for quality and has helped me build some of my sets. I think his pricing has been right on, but it is always tough to price modern coins in my opinion. >>
I agree... Mark has a great eye and there are more than a few of his finds in my set.
I'll say this... for all the coins I've bought from him, he starts his coins off at $4.99 or less and let's a true auction happen. These are coins that some try to sell for outrageous prices, like 3X price guide prices or at least 2X of recent sales prices. It's interesting to me that some people list coins for alot more than one should cost, and those coins rarely sell, if at all. Mark must be doing something right to be able to make a living making coins.
Steve
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<< <i>"The four-coin set is indeed graded by PCGS and is available from Chattanooga Coin Co. Pics of the coins are in their ad. "
The certs are fake numbers. They are mock up slabs.
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