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stinkinlincoln
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Pretty Cool Info to read
I was reading about the South African War on Wiki, and came across this man Paul Kruger... I thought it was pretty interesting to read about him and then came across that the gold Krugerrand was named for him.
I didnt know this before, and if its common knowledge, please forgive me. I have only a fleeting interest in World coins, but some of them to stand out to me. This is one of them.
Feel free to post you gold Krugerrand's...
I was reading about the South African War on Wiki, and came across this man Paul Kruger... I thought it was pretty interesting to read about him and then came across that the gold Krugerrand was named for him.
I didnt know this before, and if its common knowledge, please forgive me. I have only a fleeting interest in World coins, but some of them to stand out to me. This is one of them.
Feel free to post you gold Krugerrand's...
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Kruger was on silver coins of the ZAR (South African Republic), as well as modern gold Krugerrands.
While some of the ZAR silver can be quite scarce and pricey, a lot of it is very affordable.
Case in point: here's a funny piece I bought and sold not long ago: an 1895 shilling (edit- whoops- florin- that's two shillings) upon which somebody decided to give Oom Paul Kruger a top hat, a meerschaum pipe, and a new coat!
DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
CU #3245 B.N.A. #428
Don
This is why I love coins and will have to look at darkside stuff more closely. Just reading about some conflict half a world away and it goes right back into numismatics...
You could be a natural.
You'll be astonished at how much more history, beauty, and sheer appeal (eye appeal and otherwise) you'll get for your numismatic buck.
And nothing says you have to drop your interest in US Coins, either. After all, the entire Liteside is just a subset of the vast Darkside. US Coins are world coins, too.
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Im going to have to buy some darkside stuff to post here more frequently.
Thanks for the welcome.
What sort of things interest you? Obviously, Kruger and South Africa was one conversation point.
There are so many different directions you could go. That's what's wonderful about it. (And a little intimidating, to some novices, precisely since there is so much to see. That shouldn't bother you, though. After 33 years, I'm still stumbling across coins I never knew existed.)
I like gold and copper best, and some of the Cathedral Medals Ive seen posted here are just crazy.
Maybe when Im done with my N.O. Collection, Ill have to form a type set of all the countries. A World type set of sorts.
Anyone doing anything like that already?
Take a Trip Around the World
--Don Rupp BNA #428
Did you ever want to visit Italy, Greece, China, Thailand, Egypt, along with 190 other interesting countries of the world? Unless you have a Bill Gates type income you may think this is impossible. Well, I can’t physically send you to each of these locations but, through coins, you can experience a little bit of the culture from these destinations.
A growing field of collecting in World Numismatic is the One From Every Country (OFEC) collector. This is an inexpensive way to ‘visit’ countries and a collector can ‘see’ as many as he wishes. The goal is to acquire one coin from every country in the world. This collection can be as basic or as extensive as one wishes.
A basic collection will consist of countries currently on the map. The majority of people can complete at least two countries with the change they have at home: the US, Canada and, possibly, Mexico. So, you already have a good start. Get a map of the world and start by collecting just one coin from every country. It’s as simple as that. Some numismatists like to collect coins that have approximately the same size (diameter) while others just try for any coin from that country. This OFEC collection is also excellent for Young Numismatists (YN). As a country is added the YN can cross off the country on a list or, better yet, on a map. Learning where a country is located is both an exciting and educational endeavor.
One of the most common ways to organize an OFEC collection is alphabetically. An equally effective way is by continents. North America would consist of a Canadian, US, and Mexican coin. If you want to get more in-depth, the Island Nations can be added. Finishing a continent can be a very reachable goal for a YN. The OFEC collection also leaves room for a lot of growth. Once the current countries are obtained, the collection can be expanded to add countries which no longer exist, such as coin issuing entities, like the German States of the 17th and 18th centuries. I know of a collector who is trying to obtain one coin from every country listed in the Krause catalogs. I believe he is up to 300+ coins. So your possibilities are almost unlimited.
You may be asking, “Where will I be able to find these coins and how much will it cost?” Excellent places to start are at the local coin shows we have in Western New York (WNY). Look through a dealer’s 3/$1.00, 4/$1.00 or 5/$1.00 bargain bins. You’ll be amazed as to how many different countries you can find for 20c – 33c each. So start searching, bring a YN along and travel the world through coins, learning a little at the same time.
DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
CU #3245 B.N.A. #428
Don
Lord M had a really nice Geo III gilt proof irish 1/2 penny or penny can't remember but
I can remember seeing the pictures and it was a stunner.
I think it was one he wishes he never parted with and if memory serves me well I don't blame him.
WOW! Thanks for all the great info and advice.
I may have to start this collection. It sounds like alot of fun. I think I may try this set in proof format though.
Thanks again for the info.
<< <i>Irish, proof, gold, copper!
Lord M had a really nice Geo III gilt proof irish 1/2 penny or penny can't remember but
I can remember seeing the pictures and it was a stunner.
I think it was one he wishes he never parted with and if memory serves me well I don't blame him. >>
I had both, actually. My halfpenny gilt proof was a raw PR61 or so.
The penny, though, that was the monster. NGC PF64 UCAM. I do indeed miss it dearly.
Sadly, these small pics do it little justice.
Speaking of gilt proofs, that ain't a shabby looking example you have in your avatar picture, Hus. And a farthing, which is probably rarer than my Irish pieces.
Stinkinlincoln- if you like Irish coins, you could do the whole run of Irish predecimal in three Dansco albums. Not just a type set but a complete date and mint set! It all fits in the three Danscos. I did those and had a blast with them. Finished 'em all, too, except the "optional" 1943 florin (of which only about 35 are known). I had the 1943 halfcrown (500 known). That is a challenging series, as many Irish pieces (even in the modern era) had surprisingly low mintages, but it is attainable, and on an intermediate budget like mine was at the time. By the time I finished, I had about $4K in the whole set. (Mind you, this is Irish from 1928 up, since they started striking their own coins- it doesn't count the earlier stuff like the coin I posted above).
If you wanna do Irish, I will be happy to help any way I can. I felt a little pang last night and thought about giving it another go, even, but I will stay the course a bit longer with my current projects.
Regarding the cathedral medals, they are indeed gorgeous. Along a similar vein are the British "Conder" tokens of the 1790s, which have their share of enthusiasts here.
The OFEC "one from each country" set is a challenging one. It can be pretty inexpensive in most cases, but that is a LOT of countries to get a coin from! And you have to decide what time period you are going to collect by, since maps change so much over the centuries, and countries get redrawn, absorbed into others, and so on.
There's birthyear sets, of course.
And themes. Ships are popular. Birds. Bears. Lions. The number of possible themes is limitless.
First I would recommend you get yourself a copy of the Krause Standard Catalog of World Coins, if you do not already have one. It is divided into five volumes by century, from the 17th century through the 21st. I recommend the 20th century volume as a starting point.
Have a cookie and stay a while.
"Speaking of gilt proofs, that ain't a shabby looking example you have in your avatar picture, Hus."
Thank you. Ex Dr Johnston and Colin Cooke collection.