Is anyone checking their circulation 2009 Lincoln cents for 95% copper ones?
kwmorgan
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The coins for the uncirculated sets are going to be the 3.11g, 95% Cu ones, correct?
Two different types of cent planchets in the same mints at the same time. Who knows? The mint somehow sent silver clad Ike metal to the Denver Mint in the 1970's.
If so, how soon will it be before the 3.11g planchets end up going through the circulation coin presses?
Two different types of cent planchets in the same mints at the same time. Who knows? The mint somehow sent silver clad Ike metal to the Denver Mint in the 1970's.
If so, how soon will it be before the 3.11g planchets end up going through the circulation coin presses?
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Since that would be only S mintmarks, less likelihood of that sneaking into circulation.
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<< <i>I can readily feel the .6 gram difference in weight. >>
It's actually pretty easy to tell the difference between copper cents and Zincolns if you've handled enough coins.
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<< <i>The 95% planchets will be at the Philly and Denver Mints, according to article link below. There will be some sort of uncirculated offering of them this year.
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<< <i>I can readily feel the .6 gram difference in weight. >>
It's actually pretty easy to tell the difference between copper cents and Zincolns if you've handled enough coins. >>
I agree. Zincolns have a much duller sound to them when handled, plus the corrosion/discoloration problem is a dead giveaway.
No offense to Zincoln collectors, but my Whitmans end right at the 1982 95% copper varieties.
A few thousand copper blanks left after making mint sets may just get tossed into the 2010 production run just to get rid of them
<< <i>I wonder what they will do with the left over copper blanks
A few thousand copper blanks left after making mint sets may just get tossed into the 2010 production run just to get rid of them
...or just a few may get stuck somewhere then fall through in 2009 or 2010. Sorta like the 1943 copper...fingers crossed.
Some kid is going to break open a set or find a few bronze ones laying around that were headed to a TPG and bingo! Bronze cents at McDonald's!
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<< <i>I can readily feel the .6 gram difference in weight. >>
It's actually pretty easy to tell the difference between copper cents and Zincolns if you've handled enough coins. >>
Yup. They sound different when dropped on a hard surface.
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<< <i>...No offense to Zincoln collectors, but my Whitmans end right at the 1982 95% copper varieties. >>
It takes a lot more than that to offend me
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<< <i>A few bronze cents are bound to make it into circulation and of course it doesn't have to be a mint error.
Some kid is going to break open a set or find a few bronze ones laying around that were headed to a TPG and bingo! Bronze cents at McDonald's! >>
Very true.
If the mint doesn't do the unc's in satin finish, then it will be impossible to tell how the coin got into circulation.
.........every one i get will hit the scale before being passed in to circulation. we all know anything is possible with the mint.
<< <i>If the mint doesn't do the unc's in satin finish, then it will be impossible to tell how the coin got into circulation. >>
But they are, Blanche, they are going to produce the coins in the Mint sets with that accursed satin finish!
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
<< <i>what would a 95% copper penny look like? I found one penny that is very dull in my P mint rolls, it looks REALLY nice, almost no knicks or spots on it. It stuck out from all the other pennies I was looking throgh that are relatively shiny. >>
..........i don't think it would be easy or possible to tell the difference between the two. the scale would be the determining factor.
<< <i>what type of scale? Does anyone have any good suggestions? >>
i bought one off ebay for about $15 shipped. here is a link to one but search the bay for different brands/models. scale
Steve
.....here's a bunch
<< <i>what type of scale? Does anyone have any good suggestions? >>
You can make one in a few minutes and test it out with pre and post 82 cents to adjust it to work.
The free scale works like a teeter totter, zinc stays up but copper drops. This one was made by flattening a metal brush and bending it to shape. Any strip of metal or tin can works. You can fold one end for the weight or add some solder or glue things to calibrate it until it's balanced correctly so zinc stays up but copper drops. The pivot point is a bend in the strip, the end is bent to hold the cent in a fixed position. I used a blue piece of electrical tape so it won't scratch the coins and used solder to balance this one.
Top picture is the side view.
Next is the bottom view.
Next is a zinc cent staying up.
Next is a copper cent dropping it down.
Next is the brush I used to make it, just unroll a brush and the tin makes a good metal strip and it's easy to solder on tin.
If you don't want to use metal you can use a piece of wood and a pencil for the pivot point.
<< <i>If you don't want to use metal you can use a piece of wood and a pencil for the pivot point. >>
A ruler and a pencil creates an accurate balance scale.
<< <i>I was under the impression only the PROOFs were 95% copper. >>
According to the April 18th Mint News Blog :
"the Abraham Lincoln Coin & Chronicles Set. It will include the Proof 2009 Lincoln Commemorative Silver Dollar and the four Proof 2009 Lincoln Cents. These Lincoln Cents will be struck in a special composition of 95% copper, which was used on the first Lincoln Cents released in 1909. The set will include a reproduction of the Gettysburg Address, an image of Abraham Lincoln with his signature printed in gold foil below, and a certificate of authenticity. The set will be housed in a matching hardcover slipcase."
On top of that, I believe the Mint is planning on producing only 50,000 of these ALC&C sets, which is why they have reserved 50,000 of the 2009 Proof Lincoln Comm. Dollars!
Collectors will be jumping on these sets quicker than a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs, the first day they are released!
- Jim
1. All PROOF cents will contain the "S" mintmark and will be 95% copper and 5% tin and zinc.
2. All Mint sets will be Satin Finish, contain no mintmark for Philadelphia and the "D" mintmark for Denver and be 95% copper and 5% tin and zinc.
3. All business strike lincoln cents intended for circulation will contain no mintmark for Philadelphia and the "D" mintmark for Denver and will be zinc with the copper overlay.
It is possible to get a 95% copper in change, but ONLY if someone opens a mint set and spends those Satin Finish coins.
The 50,000 speical Lincoln set containing the Lincoln dollar and the 4 designs of the 95% copper, both in PROOF condition is the exact same coins that are available in the proof sets.
To collect all 20 versions needed for 2009 Lincoln cents, buy one 2009 Proof set and one 2009 Mint set from the US mint. No limitations on quantities have been announced. Then start looking thru change to get the eight other zinc cents. Four with no mintmark and four with the "D" mintmark. THAT will be the hard part and may require collectors to pay dealers premiums to aquire them, especially this year and in 2010. After that, they will probably be able to be gotten for ten or fifteen cents each. Have fun.
Steve
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It is possible to get a 95% copper in change, but ONLY if someone opens a mint set and spends those Satin Finish coins.
...........i don't know about that, steve. i think it CAN happen that a copper planchet intended for a proof coin could indeed make it in to the regular hopper for business strikes. stranger things have happened at our mint.