What is the highest grade you can get with a crease?

jeff8877

Hi everyone,

This card has a "bend" middle top about one inch long to the left of his head...can't really see from scan. You can barely see it on reverse but it is there. Card has three NM or better corners with top right dinged. What would be the best grade could expect with this bend or minor crease?

Thanks to all

Jeff

lawnmowerman

5

Elemenopeo

I agree 5's the limit with a bend. More often than not though you'll get a 4 or 4.5 if there are no other big problems.

storm888

5 is likely the highest; could be lower, though.

It looks like there is foxing on the reverse. If so, the grade could be real low.

firedawg45

i was going to bid on that but i dont think its better than a 4 so i didnt.. good luck, you never know with psa.. corey

divecchia

PSA 4 or 5 at best.

Donato

jeff8877

Thanks everyone for your input...I still have one question though. Based on PSA's grading guidelines I don't see where they mention a crease on their EX/5 grade??? It is mentioned on the grading guideline for a 4 though??

EX 5: Excellent.

Excellent On PSA EX-5 cards, very minor rounding of the corners is becoming evident. Surface wear or printing defects are more visible. There may be minor chipping on edges. Loss of original gloss will be more apparent. Focus of picture may be slightly out-of-register. Several light scratches may be visible upon close inspection, but do not detract from the appeal of the card. Card may show some off-whiteness of borders. Centering must be 85/15 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the back.
VG-EX 4: Very Good-Excellent.

A PSA VG-EX 4 card's corners may be slightly rounded. Surface wear is noticeable but modest. The card may have light scuffing or light scratches. Some original gloss will be retained. Borders may be slightly off-white. A light crease may be visible. Centering must be 85/15 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the back.

storm888

"Thanks everyone for your input...I still have one question though. Based on PSA's grading guidelines I don't see where they mention a crease on their EX/5 grade??? It is mentioned on the grading guideline for a 4 though??..."

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By golly you're right.

But, I have a box full of 10s in 5-slabs due to micro-wrinkles that
are almost impossible to find.

Maybe a larger wrinkle/crease equals a 4.

WinPitcher

I think a 4, a 5 would be a wrinkle made at the factory or during production. A crease is done after production.

Steve

frankhardy

I have sent in a 1985 Donruss Roger Clemens that would otherwise grade a 10 (yes, it is otherwise perfect, even under magnification). This card has gotten a 6 twice. There is the lightest surface wrinkle on the back of the card.

So, I would submit to you that you can get a 6 if the rest of the card is perfect and the surface wrinkle is very, very light and on the back of the card only.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>I have sent in a 1985 Donruss Roger Clemens that would otherwise grade a 10 (yes, it is otherwise perfect, even under magnification). This card has gotten a 6 twice. There is the lightest surface wrinkle on the back of the card.

So, I would submit to you that you can get a 6 if the rest of the card is perfect and the surface wrinkle is very, very light and on the back of the card only. >>



Cards with surface impressions or dings usually 6. Are you sure it's a wrinke?

I have never seen a wrinkle not be an automatic 5.

daddymc

Agreed. A small surface wrinkle that does not go through the other side seems to be an automatic 5 at best. Anything larger or that goes through to the back is a 4 at best.

WinPitcher

I could see them giving an other wise perfect card a 6 if the wrinkle was on the back.


Steve

frankhardy

<< <i>

<< <i>I have sent in a 1985 Donruss Roger Clemens that would otherwise grade a 10 (yes, it is otherwise perfect, even under magnification). This card has gotten a 6 twice. There is the lightest surface wrinkle on the back of the card.

So, I would submit to you that you can get a 6 if the rest of the card is perfect and the surface wrinkle is very, very light and on the back of the card only. >>



Cards with surface impressions or dings usually 6. Are you sure it's a wrinke?

I have never seen a wrinkle not be an automatic 5. >>



Yes, in my opinion, it was a wrinkle. You have to be in bright light and shine it at just the right angle to even see it. It blends in very well with the beige color on the back. Remember, this came back TWICE a 6. I couldn't believe it the first time. I thought it was a lock 9 and a great shot at a 10. When it came back a 6, I studied it very much and saw the light wrinkle. I sent it in again thinking that it would get past them because it was so light. It didn't. It got a 6 again.

lawnmowerman

Thanks Shane!