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dioworlddioworld Posts: 140 ✭✭
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Do you guys think i will get the same grade for these two cards if i crossover to PSA?

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thx

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  • leathtechleathtech Posts: 3,191 ✭
    so people don't have to click on the links...

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    Good luck if you try to cross them... but the real question is what would the following cross to???

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  • dioworlddioworld Posts: 140 ✭✭
    The maris myself i think is a 4 or 4.5
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    I think the first two will crossover with same grade, Mantle might come back a 3.5. The Maris, if not found to be trimmed, looks like maybe a 5.
  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034 ✭
    Why cross the SGC's? They are fine the way they are.
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  • dioworlddioworld Posts: 140 ✭✭
    i think psa graded cards seems to worth more so it makes me feel better image
    i don't think i'll cross it over, but i want to get everyone's opinion see if both company have different grading scale
    The mantle actually looks better in real than the scan though.
  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    Mantle crosses lower, Aaron crosses the same, Maris crosses trimmed.

    "Molon Labe"

  • mike92694mike92694 Posts: 1,068


    << <i>i think psa graded cards seems to worth more so it makes me feel better image
    i don't think i'll cross it over, but i want to get everyone's opinion see if both company have different grading scale
    The mantle actually looks better in real than the scan though. >>



    It is people like you who make PSA graded cards appear to be worth more. The card is the same, no matter the holder. It's just a matter of perception.

    But remember, every time you send the card out for crossover, crack it out, or whatever, you risk damaging the card.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    I think that the Mantle and the Aaron come back a grade lower. If you try, hopefully I am wrong. that Aaron looked REAL nice until you get to that bottom left corner.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • smtjoysmtjoy Posts: 617
    I think the Aaron crosses fine maybe even a .5 bump. I dont think the mantle will cross straight up maybe a 3 or 3.5. The Maris looks trimmed, if not it gets a 5.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭
    Sorry but forget about crossing.
    PSA 3 Mantle, PSA 6 Aaron, PSA 4 Maris if not trimmed. chaz
  • onebamafanonebamafan Posts: 1,318 ✭✭
    Beautiful Aaron.......................Grades same on Mantle and Aaron........Maris 4-5 range. Again, not sure why you would cross them? Those cards wouldn't sell for much more if any in a PSA slab, IMO. SGC may be slightly easier on centering, but they are tough on other graded areas.
  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    VCP Data for 1951 Bowman Mantle:

    Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 4 - Average Price: $2,341.07

    6/7/09 eBay Auction $2,260.37
    3/25/09 eBay Listing $2,999.00
    3/18/09 eBay Listing $2,500.00
    3/8/09 eBay Auction $1,936.00
    1/28/09 eBay Auction $2,010.23
    1/11/09 eBay Auction $2,226.00
    12/14/08 eBay Listing $2,125.00

    Latest Auction Prices for: SGC 50 - Average Price: $1,844.00

    5/1/09 Legendary Auction $1,920.00
    4/23/09 eBay Listing $1,800.00
    2/26/09 eBay Listing $1,800.00
    12/9/08 eBay $1,650.00
    11/23/08 eBay $1,700.00
    10/22/08 Huggins & Scott $2,185.00
    9/4/08 eBay $2,000.00

    1954 Aaron

    Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 7 - Average Price: $2,171.67


    6/9/09 eBay Auction $2,325.00
    5/21/09 eBay Auction $2,247.88
    4/28/09 eBay Listing $2,184.00
    4/5/09 Memory Lane Auction $2,287.73
    3/30/09 eBay Auction $3,150.00
    3/8/09 eBay Auction $1,850.00
    3/8/09 eBay Auction $2,247.00
    2/22/09 eBay Auction $2,133.00
    2/22/09 eBay Auction $2,027.78
    1/25/09 eBay Auction $1,921.00

    Latest Auction Prices for: SGC 84 - Average Price: $1,677.18


    2/24/09 eBay Listing $1,625.00
    9/28/08 eBay $1,731.54
    8/29/08 eBay $1,675.00
    5/8/08 eBay $1,581.00
    3/31/08 eBay $1,681.00
    3/23/08 eBay $1,460.00
    3/7/08 Hunt $2,415.00

  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    Crazy stuff, here are the #'s for the mint variety of the 51 Bowman Mantle:

    PSA 9

    10/24/07 eBay $40,200.00
    9/1/07 Mastro $93,206.40
    2/24/06 Goodwin $67,048.20

    SGC 96

    9/14/08 Memory Lane $88,125.00
    4/28/07 Mastro $162,412.00

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I think the bottom left corner on the Aaron is part of the ruff cut.

    I am more concerned with the upper rightt corner.


    As for the Mantle it should cross at the same grade.

    The Maris? I dunno I'd crack that one out.


    Steve


    Edited to correct my left from my right.

    Good for you.
  • dioworlddioworld Posts: 140 ✭✭
    The bottom left is a ruff cut with slight touch i think
    But my other mantle 61 upper right corner and bottom left has some touch too, i'm still able to get a 7
    It seems to be that these grading company graded things so inconsistent, do they even follow their grading scale when grading cards?

    A PSA NM 7 is a card with just a slight surface wear visible upon close inspection. There may be slight fraying on some corners. Picture focus may be slightly out-of-register. A minor printing blemish is acceptable. Slight wax staining is acceptable on the back of the card only. Most of the original gloss is retained. Centering must be approximately 70/30 to 75/25 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the back.

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