1997 lincoln missing detail in ear area

sanitarium1inmate

Can anyone tell me how this happens? I found it and it just caught my eye as something special. Well special to me atleast.

here is a closer look at his ear area.

Here is a normal 1997 to judge against.

any help will be appreciated.

Robb

It's the Mick Foley variety.

I'm confident that few, if any, will get that joke.

stinkinlincoln

<<Mick Foley>>


You mean Cactus Jack?

Robb

<< <i><<Mick Foley>>


You mean Cactus Jack?


>>


BANG! BANG!

Robb

<< <i> >>


^ Is that a CAC sticker?


Sorry for the thread hijack.

sanitarium1inmate

<< <i>

<< <i> >>


^ Is that a CAC sticker?


Sorry for the thread hijack. >>


No worries man, you guys are cracking me up.

Res

<< <i>It's the Mick Foley variety.

I'm confident that few, if any, will get that joke. >>



Why not the Holyfield variety.

Robb

Holyfield Variety would probably be better for marketing purposes.

Foley Variation or Holyfield, either way, it needs to be on a PCGS flip.

WoodenJefferson

Hard to say exactly what is going on here, two possible postulations:

1. The obverse die got clogged with debris and is stamping out this rather flat area inside the ear.
2. This is a die polished area (mechanically tooled/altered) to remove a defect.

Note: An extreme microscopic evaluation of this area might reveal die polish lines.

sanitarium1inmate

<< <i>Hard to say exactly what is going on here, two possible postulations:

1. The obverse die got clogged with debris and is stamping out this rather flat area inside the ear.
2. This is a die polished area (mechanically tooled/altered) to remove a defect.

Note: An extreme microscopic evaluation of this area might reveal die polish lines. >>


I'll to get a pic with my usb camera. If I can get the lighting right.

coinman420

i found a similar one but don`t know what caused it.

lasvegasteddy

it's a minor variety in that it's an over polished die

like the missing fg kennedies

stinkinlincoln

Coinman420, thats a cool coin!

coinman420

<< <i>Coinman420, thats a cool coin! >>

sanitarium1inmate

I tries to get the lighting right. nice coin coinman420.

19Lyds

Overpolishing on the die.

This situation occurs with most business strike dies that get over used and is directly related to the low relief designs. As the fields get lapped, they lower on the die and raise up on the coin. Kinda like water filling a jello mold. The lowest parts get filled first.

Here it is on a Monroe:


Here it is on a Washington:


I'll try to locate some photo's that show it on Kennedy's and IKE's at the bridge of the nose and in the ear.

No biggie. Just a curiosity that is within US Mint tolerances.

sanitarium1inmate

Cool thanks for the comments everyone.

Cam40

yep, over-polished die.
i found a `74 lincoln with over-polished chest-area.
sunken chest variety?
the new prez bux has a cut-throat liberty reverse..

19Lyds

Here it is on a 1974-D Ike:

GrumpyEd

I also think these were caused by over-polishing of the dies.

People often think that die clashes or polishing from removing clashes won't show in the deeper areas of the die (higher areas like bust of the coins) BUT on modern coins the relief is not high. The mint designs the coins to give the illusion of higher relief but to make manufacturing easier they are very low relief so the area below the ear is nearly level with the fields. What that means is on Lincolns they do get clashes that often show below the ear so that area is not deep in the die, it only looks that way because of the tricky low relief design. Modern quarters have the same issue.

Here's an example, see the bay clash that shows below the ear:

AskRaq

Here's a Sac with die polish..... her left eye is *missing* and the poor baby appears to be *drowning*