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New counterstamped coin, seated liberty dime with an interesting patent mark

Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
I recently purchased this 1883 seated liberty dime with the counterstamp, "HMQ, Design Pat. Jan 29, 1889."
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After spending some time researching at the patent office, I came up with this patent,
Nutcracker

Description

It refers to the invention of the famous nutcracker "workhorse" we all know and love. This patent is for the first nutcracker that he designed and patented. You probably own a nickle plated nutcracker like this, but the original was springless, and I believe was also missing the nickle plating.

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Henry M. Quackenbush began his career working at the Remington Arms company in New York, and soon founded his own company, the H. M. Quackenbush Company, which still exists today. He was a prolific inventor, some of his most famous inventions are the "steel-springed nutcracker" the "Extension Ladder" many guns and air rifles, and was one of the driving forces behind the standardization of rifle guages.

The counterstamp on the coin in question is probably a jewlers punch that Quackenbush had produced so he could mark some of the first nutcrackers he made. I would imagine this coin was done as a test punch. I have yet to track down a first generation nutcracker produced by HMQ, but I would not be suprised to find this stamp on these items. As you can see in the photos, the later generation crackers have HMQ engraven into the spring section (1917 version.)

The patent stamp definately originates with Henry Quackenbush and his nutcracker, I am just not sure if the punch was ever used for his products. If anyone comes across a first generation HMQ nutcracker (1889-1916), let me know. I have been searching, but they are apparantly quite uncommon (or worthless, so no one bothers to sell them as an antique image)

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    Very cool!!

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From the serrations on the reverse of the coin, it almost looks like he used a modified nutcracker to stamp the patent info onto that coin. Very neat that you wree able to link it back to the source this way.


    Sean Reynolds
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have one that's in the original box ,with six picks.No stamp on it.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Groovy. Where's savoyspecial?

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  • Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭✭
    My parents have had a set of Quackenbush nutcrackers for about 50 years, although they are the spring loaded type.

    The Quackenbush firearms are very interesting. There is one that is a combination cartridge firing .22 rifle and air rifle. Most of these rifles were made for young boys and consequently are usually found in rough shape.
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have one that's in the original box ,with six picks.No stamp on it. >>



    If it doesn't have the stamp on it, it is likely a knock-off version produced out of Hong Kong. From what I understand, they started producing the knock-off's sometime in the seventies.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat item and nice job researching the history!
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Bump for those who missed it...I just like this counterstamp.
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    I don't know how long it takes before old threads get deleted, but I wanted to save this one.
  • fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice look for a 2009 pickup. It retoned well.image
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very interesting read, and very informative indeed.
    For some crazy reason when I saw the name Quackenbush,
    I immediately thought of Quayle and Bush, odd to say the least.
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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's so hard to believe he ended up dying broke and almost as insane as Dr. "I can make my own cents!" Feuchtwanger!
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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is the type of coin I would love to have - great story behind it, very cool.
  • seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    I love that coin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    It very well be used for nuts, but I've cracked a many a crab claw with a pair of those...neat coin, good research!
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice!
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  • I do hope you find one of the original nutcrackers by the doctor. It would be great to have the stamped coin along with cracker and the story behind it. It would be a cool piece all framed up together.
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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @astrorat/Lane - this is the thread I was thinking of when I commented on your counterstamped 20 cent piece thread a while back, IIRC yours was a patent stamp for a double-barreled shotgun.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Do you have a link to the thread Sean?
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