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Would the centering prevent this from being a psa 10?

I was just wondering if the centering would prevent this card from being a psa 10? Just assuming that the corners, edges, and surface are gem, what would it grade? Thanks
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  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Yes - it's a 9
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    If it measures right it is likely a 9, but it has eye-appeal issues due to the centering.


    MINT 9: Mint.

    A PSA Mint 9 is a superb condition card that exhibits only one of the following minor flaws: a very slight wax stain on reverse, a minor printing imperfection or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 60/40 to 65/35 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.

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  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    I would guess 9 as well.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Although PSA specifies that 60/40 is allowable for a 10, I have yet to see it happen.
  • lightningboylightningboy Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭
    Although PSA specifies that 60/40 is allowable for a 10, I have yet to see it happen.

    That is so true. I think some people even feel that if a card is centered exactly 60/40, then it shouldn't even be a 9
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Although PSA specifies that 60/40 is allowable for a 10, I have yet to see it happen. >>



    You obviously haven't seen some of 4SC's PSA 10s on eBay. He gets a ton of leeway on centering.
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  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    True Dan.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...I think some people even feel that if a card is centered exactly 60/40, then it shouldn't even be a 9..."

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    It's prolly OK to call it a 9, but it's prolly not a good
    idea for a collector to buy it.

    Decades ago, I went through the devaluing of stamps that
    were less than perfectly centered. The same thing is now
    about to be fully in play with cards.

    ...........

    Obviously, centering is one of the least - if not THE least - "subjective" elements of card grading.

    A gorgeous 8 - that is perfectly centered - might someday/somehow make it into an 8.5 or 9 slab.

    Uncentered 9s and 10s will then have to compete with those 8.5 and 9 slabs.



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  • jswietonjswieton Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭
    That seems to fall within the limits of a PSA 10. Very few cards are actually 50/50 centering all the way around.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    The card the OP posted is not 60/40. It's closer to 56/44 at the top. It has a very slight tilt.

    Does the right border start at the end of the picture, or the end of the basketball that's breaking the right border at the bottom?
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...Does the right border start at the end of the picture, or the end of the basketball that's breaking the right border at the bottom?."

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    For PSA measuring, I guess it would start at the basketball.

    But, even if that makes it a sure 9, it still "looks" to be not
    centered in a way that offers great "eye appeal."

    I cannot tell for sure if it's slightly tilted, OR if it's just the
    way it's sitting on the scanner bed.

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  • I think it would get a 9...
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>For PSA measuring, I guess it would start at the basketball.

    But, even if that makes it a sure 9, it still "looks" to be not
    centered in a way that offers great "eye appeal."
    >>




    Well, that's the kicker. if it's measured at the baseketball, then it IS 50/50 left to right.


    So, how does eye-appeal factor in when the factory specs for the card make it appear naturally OC?
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Well, that's the kicker. if it's measured at the baseketball, then it IS 50/50 left to right.

    So, how does eye-appeal factor in when the factory specs for the card make it appear naturally OC? .."

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    Eye-Appeal can be pretty subjective, but usually there are
    reasonable limits to diversity of views.

    Folks who simply want high number cards may be perfectly
    happy with the way the thing "looks."

    Folks who want high number cards that "look" perfect might
    see it differently.

    To me, the subject card will "look" like it is "oddly centered,"
    no matter what the number on the slab is. The current market
    might see it totally different, BUT I strongly believe the trend
    is going to be toward "cards with high numbers that look perfect."


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    EDIT TO ADD:

    I am speculating that the basketball should be the measuring point.
    I do NOT know that to be a fact.

    Somebody at PSA would have the certain answer.








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