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Guy pulls 51 SUPER SHORT PRINT 2009 Heritage cards in 1 blaster

http://blogbeckett.wordpress.com/2009/05/20/now-that-is-a-loaded-box/

On the outside, the blaster box of 2009 Topps Heritage that Todd Neuman bought at a Walmart in Mayfield, Ky., probably looked like every other one that rolled off the assembly line and made its way to the shelf.

But on the inside it looked quite, quite different.

As in it had 51 of the set's super-rare short-printed variations inside.

As in seven copies of Randy Winn.

As in seven Conor Jacksons.

As in seven Adrian Gonzalezes.

As in seven John Smoltzes and Hanley Ramirezes, too.

To top that, there were eight copies of the $200 Thom Glavine variation and eight copies of the Fred Lewis card featuring Winn on the front.

All told, thats a $10,300 blaster box (high book) that cost just $19.99. There were just eight packs inside, but each and every one was loaded thats an average of $1,287 a pack.

"I have been collecting for a long time, but hadn't bought any Topps Heritage this year yet. I bought the third box in the row and pulled 51 short-printed variations," Neuman said. "I was just wondering if you had heard of anyone else having this luck on these this year?"

The answer on this is easy. That's got to be the only one.
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  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭
    Nice, variations are more exciting than relics or auto's, can't wait to open a box tonight.

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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    what a freaking joke. Topps sucks
  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>what a freaking joke. Topps sucks >>



    Would you still be saying that if it was you who opened the box...? image

    Any of the board members pulled one of these 2009 Heritage SP's yet?

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  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭


    << <i>what a freaking joke. Topps sucks >>



    I was just about to say, this will really irk Kevin.image
  • Not nearly the dollar value, but there were many reports of hot boxes of 2007 Playoff Prestige FB floating around where all the SP rookies magically showed up.
  • AricAric Posts: 757 ✭✭
    This really ticks me off and I don't even collect Heritage. Think of all the people that are going to have hitless boxes to make this one box.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    So that answers the question of how one guy in Kentucky ended up selling off seven complete sets of SSPs. Board member Joe was able to land one of them; they are in hand now. With one seller listing that many sets, we were both wondering if they were even real, but as it turns out, they were.

    Topps needs to come forth and let us know what the print run really is on these. Putting just over 7 sets in one blaster is beyond ridiculous.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I just sent Clay at topps a email, I'm not happy at all, make sure the freaking odds are right and don't BS with some manufacturor error! Funny that
    beckett once again delivers the story and they are the ones that supply wal mart with the blaster boxes.....total BS

    Kevin
  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So that answers the question of how one guy in Kentucky ended up selling off seven complete sets of SSPs. Board member Joe was able to land one of them; they are in hand now. With one seller listing that many sets, we were both wondering if they were even real, but as it turns out, they were.

    Topps needs to come forth and let us know what the print run really is on these. Putting just over 7 sets in one blaster is beyond ridiculous. >>



    Hi Geordie!!image
  • Quick everyone go out and buy up all the Blaster boxes at Wal-Mart!
  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi Shawn! image

    How're things? >>


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  • Josephcb09Josephcb09 Posts: 286 ✭✭
    This explains everything.

    I think it is terrible on Topps' part, but at least I know the ones I bought are real.

    Now that could have been 51 cases with at least 1 SSP in it. I guess I know where mine went.
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    I'm not happy at all!!
    I agree if I opened that Box or a friend of mine I'd feel damn good I'm sure.

    But If you really think about it... Topps sucks on this one!t

    They really kicked all the Heritage collectors in the face on this one. I opened more Heritage this year than ever before.
    More than I'd even care to own up to... and did not pull one of these damn cards not one and now this.

    Good luck to the lucky guy it's not his falt but give me a brake image
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    What if it was some kid who's Uncle bought him this box for his 10th birthday present. He opens it up and sees the same card in each pack. That kid would be pretty ticked off! (assuming the kid doesn't know about the SSPs). F-U Topps. Morons.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    This is the lucky guy

    Here's the guy Joe bought from - also from Kentucky

    First guy had 7 sets, 2nd guy sold a total of 5 - 2 as a lot, and the other 3 as singles. 12 sets total. Nice.

    edit: oops, my bad. 2nd seller still has a set up for grabs with a $500 BIN/BO - make that 13 total sets.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    This is what irks me... when someone has all of these valuable cards and doesn't sell them properly. This guy would have made a lot more money selling them as singles. Good grief.

    EDIT: I realize this isn't necessarily true all the time, but I think I'm just in an ugly mood because the Cavs lost tonight, so I'm just gonna go to bed. Nighty-night! image
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I hope the cards are worthless in a few years, that is what we get for chasing cards worth 100 bucks that have no ink or jesey on them. There could be a stack
    of these at the topps office and none of us would know. Put a few in hobby boxes and make them look like they are super rare and then at the end hand
    out favors to guys and dealers and make a ton. I wouldn't touch these super sp's with a 10 foot pole, sure I am bitter cause I didn't pull any of them but
    Im more bitter cause topps though us dumb heritage collectors would forget that they put a bunch of crap autographs in the product and instead put out
    super short prints of super star greats Fred Lewis and Randy Wynn.

    I just might go to every wal mart I can find and line up all the heritage blasters I can find and step on them, insuring that topps is stuck with this worthless
    crap.

    Sincerely,
    Beyond Ticked
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd almost go as far to say I think this guy is lying about his pull. I call BS.
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    I know there is a chance it's BS.
    But I picked up a couple of blasters from a Kmart about 2 or 3 weeks ago and they have just about all Managers cards 7 and 8 of the same guys!
    I hit 7 Jim Leylands in one pack and the same in other pack from the same blasters.
    I'd say it sure is possible on the SSP
  • ArchStantonArchStanton Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭
    I saw blasters at Walmart at the beginning of the week. I bought one because it is common for Topps to throw a bunch of stuff in them at the end of the run. It was crap, just like EVERY Walmart blaster I bought this year. No thanks Topps.
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  • TZAHLTZAHL Posts: 649 ✭✭
    I guess you can just hope that Topps did this on purpose? Like a hot box? I dunno. I know I would be thrilled.

    The price of these will come back down to earth, but there will always be demand. Just like the Gordon cut out. I keep my eyes peeled for deals on this stuff all the time (just like the rest of you) so I'm sure the demand will remain pretty high as long as there are Heritage collectors.

    The print run increased again this year. It is becoming fruitless to try to put together a chrome or refractor set through box rips.....
    Trying to complete:
    2000 Bowman Chrome
    2002 Topps Heritage NAP
    2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
    2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭
    A hot box should have had one complete set, if it was truly on purpose for the collector, why 7?

    Every year Topps messes with the collector to boost their bottom line, or spark interest.......I bet this was on purpose, to increase sales...
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    <<<<I hope the cards are worthless in a few years>>>>



    Stalin I remember a few years ago i simply said to someone that had asked about modern issues that they usually go down
    in value but if you like what you bought it did not matter. You then went back and forth with me regarding how this product was
    Gods gift to mankind. How I did not know anything bla bla bla. I have now seen you say the very same thing I did that night
    at least 4 times now.


    Typical of you.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • TZAHLTZAHL Posts: 649 ✭✭
    I don't think the product is a junk product, but Topps keeps dumbing it down. 2007-2009 have not been as good as the issues of the past. Lack of star autographs and an increase in 'super rare' dual autos, relics and the like has made this product like many others today.. Oversaturated and a pain to collect.
    Trying to complete:
    2000 Bowman Chrome
    2002 Topps Heritage NAP
    2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
    2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭
    I'm sure the guys at Topps are sitting around the board room thinking.........."this should have them flooding the Walmarts to find the "golden ticket" blasters........."we should be able to sell those things out..............."OK, what do you have for the Hi-Numbers...........?"
  • fur72fur72 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭
    I think its a true story. Thats what happened to the first guy who was able to sell so many SSP sets on ebay. Is it bad QA or good pub?
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Clay assured me it wasn't done on purpose, but the bottom line is this effects the pull odds. Like the guy pulling rip cards from every pack of Ginter last year. After
    a while people just won't be buying this stuff.

    The irony here is that while I though 09 was the worst set to date (at least in content), I have never traded more of it ever! If I had 40 more SP's they would
    be gone tomorrow, the demand this year even just on the boards, was huge. Go figure!

    Kevin
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hot boxes have been around for sometime now. I got a Topps finest basketball 1996-97 where every card was a refractor,silver refractor or gold refractor. I made huge money on that box with all the rookies.. iverson,kobe and others.
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  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭
    There's a disconnect in the story.............if they don't do this on purpose and the "hot" boxes have been around for a while..... then the conclusion is that they have a terrible quality contol department, they know it and they don't do anything about it.

    Just like when Bush and Mantle slipped through on the Jeter card......and they claimed they missed it......I just don't buy it (that it's not on purpose)........

    I like the set, I just wish they would focus on the collector rather than the "big hit to make a buck" mentality...........
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,261 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I buy a blaster maybe around once a month and always get nothing but dreck - I mean throw me a bone once in awhile....something....I'd even take a utility infielder autograph card for crying out loud.
  • The guys story is probably true. Topps can have some collation issues. In 2006, I bought 4 cases of Topps Heritage (hobby). Three of the cases were normal collation. However, the 4th case was very strange. Instead of having sp/insert and 7 base (or whatever # it was), I had 7 sps and 1 base per pack for for each box in the case.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I understand the occasional goof, but 51 super short prints probably represents close to half of the entire print run of these cards, that is just
    too much of a goof. We all know that topps had no problem selling every single hobby box, we also know that they flooded the market with
    retail. Why wouldn't they hold this back at the end to push up sales of these boxes and many of us have already found out, have NOTHING in
    them. How ironic that beckett, who couldn't find a news story about heritage with a map and flashlight, is the one who breaks this story AND
    they are the ones who benifit from people buying retail blasters.

    I just can't see how topps can do this in todays economy, of course they do sell e-cards for 5-10 bucks a piece and don't even have to produce
    them, so they aren't all that dumb.

    Kevin
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭
    Kevin- I think the collation this year was terrible, thats why the collectors were scrambling to complete sets.

    And I think Topps did that on purpose also.........making it virually impossible to complete the set through packs alone.....you should be able to get one complete set out of a case (less the SSP). I'm not sure why Topps can't make that happen.....oh yeah....greed
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