Help Identify these

metalmeister

Hello all,
Can anyone identify these and approx worth please.
Bought these from an old room mate over 15 yrs ago and no idea what I paid for them

First is from China I belive.
Second from Netherlands I belive.

Thanks

coachleonard

ssecond one is a silver (cant remember denomination) from flanders or antwerp-- was netherlands in 1622. Probably a coin familiar to the very first settlers of Dutch Manhattan

Sapyx

#1 is a dollar from the Republic of China, colloquially known as the "fat man dollar". This one dates from Year 10.Krause reports two varieties for this year: KM.Y 329.5 with "oblique reeding" and KM.Y 3296 with normal vertical reeding. The oblique variant is more valuable, though neither are "rare".

Your coin is also damaged slightly. Apart from some small chopmarks, it's got what appears to be a removed mount at 8 o'clock on the reverse, as well as some scratches in the centre of the reverse (which may have been caused by removing the mount). With tis damage, I can;t see it being worth much more tan bullion value (.890 fine, .7552 ounces).

Finally, I should point out that even though it's not a scarce type, the "fat man dollar" is nevertheless extensively copied by the fake/fantasy makers in China.

The second coin is a silver coin from Brabant, Spanish Netherlands (you can read BRAB to the left of the shield), but the 1600's Krause is sadly lacking in illustrations for this state; I'd need to know the weight to tell the denomination.

sumnom

"Year 10" would be 1921.

metalmeister

Netherlands coin weight is 27.5 grams
Thanks all

jessecarlk

<< <i>Your coin is also damaged slightly. Apart from some small chopmarks, it's got what appears to be a removed mount at 8 o'clock on the reverse, as well as some scratches in the centre of the reverse (which may have been caused by removing the mount). With tis damage, I can;t see it being worth much more tan bullion value (.890 fine, .7552 ounces). >>



I thought that this was a rim cud, not damage.