For a pop 8, that seems like a lot of coin. On the Mike Schmidt side, it is amazing how much the price has dropped when population hits more than a very small handful of examples.
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As PSA is going for perfection grading these PSA 10 Ryans!
a PSA 9 is worth $10 - $20
If I recall, one recently sold for about $1000 or so?
rd
P.S. There are plenty of PSA 9s out there (I've got a few myself, plus a small stack of raw '86 Ryans too!) Guess it is time to sub a Ryan PSA 9 for review?
<< <i>People are dumb. Not only that, but there is chipping all on the one black border, and I can see touches on the corners on the back of the card. >>
That's why I no longer buy PSA "10's" from that seller...
<< <i>People are dumb. Not only that, but there is chipping all on the one black border, and I can see touches on the corners on the back of the card. >>
That's why I no longer buy PSA "10's" from that seller... >>
Is there something shady about Just Collect? I bought a few cards from them before with no problem. I can't stand their incessant email marketing. I unsubscribe but everytime I win an auction, they sign me up again
I understand what everyone is saying, but until you break 1986 Topps unopened material you have no idea how difficult it is to find PSA 10 candidates. At this point I have broken over 10 rack cases from different sources. Some cases have no submittable cards. Others have a handful and rarely do you find a case with 50 or more cards. That Ryan is especially tough. I have submitted so many 9s at this point I have lost count, but there are so many problems with the card I understand why people are shelling out big dollars for the 10s. Chipping is always a problem with 86s. If you have clean borders, then centering is frequently a problem. With that Ryan card especially you also have to worry about print defects and other marks in the jersey. I don't like the Ryan that just sold because of the marks. I suspect that the chipping and marks kept the value under $1,000. Many of the 10s have sold for $3,000 or more. It's certainly a tough one to pull in true 10 condition.
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With what I've opened from this year, factory sets seem to be where it's at. The cards have a much deeper color and don't seem to come out with the chipped edges as much.
I was actually the high-bidder for all of three seconds, until the final three snipes came in. I fully expected Don Spence to win the card, as he has the #1 Ryan Registry Set and the 1986 is one of the very few cards he doesn't have in PSA 10. I'm shocked that he got outbid.
The previous poster is correct. The first PSA 10 Ryan sold for ~$5K not that long ago, and I believe this is the first one to sell for under $1K. There are many of us on the registry looking for this card.
Good luck busting wax boxes. The quality from wax and vending is terrible. There are a few guys on this board who have been busting tons of this product and know how difficult it really is.
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<< <i>With what I've opened from this year, factory sets seem to be where it's at. The cards have a much deeper color and don't seem to come out with the chipped edges as much. >>
I have not pulled anything worthwhile from rack packs yet, I have pulled a few gradable cards from wax (subbed a few in the gumby sub) that have graded PSA 9s and 10s, but not many.
Out of 2 factory sets, I may have 50-60 PSA 9 candidates and 20-30 PSA 10 candidates, plus I still have two unopened factory sets. Who knows? maybe a gem Ryan awaits me?
NOT! .......... but one never knows?
rd
edit: from the dozen or so racks I ripped so far, I find that under a loope, corners are just full of "fibrous, hairy looking stuff" and are not too sharp. Plus almost every rack that I cracked, "black chipping" was worse on the "rack cards" than with cards from wax or factory sets.
The racks are very hit or miss. You have to have a good case and then you are looking for centered cards without print defects because there is little chipping. You can tell the quality of the cards in the rack before you even open it. If the pack is completely clean you have a shot. If there are any fragments, dust or particles in the pack, it will be total crap. I have opened 4 factory sets. One was great, one was mediocre and the other two had maybe one or two 9 candidates between them. The only set with which I have had more trouble is 1981s. They are just impssible.
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Crazy money, and the demand is still very strong for 1986 Topps Ryan 10s. Like many stated before, PSA 10s are very TOUGH to find. With the new grading standard, I don't see the POP exploding here.
The card that was sold was not the best 10, but still went for 800+.
Blind 10 in my opinion, that's the first place 99% of the people look. The black corners and edges on the front. One of the corners even looked touched. Very suspect card, almost like Just Collect subbed 1000 and caught the grader on a Friday.
If a 9 of this card can be bought for 10-20.00 why not buy 10 or so examples and crack them all and resubmit. Or simply send them in for review. At least 1 should upgade, no?
I was actually the high-bidder for all of three seconds, until the final three snipes came in. I fully expected Don Spence to win the card, as he has the #1 Ryan Registry Set and the 1986 is one of the very few cards he doesn't have in PSA 10. I'm shocked that he got outbid.
The previous poster is correct. The first PSA 10 Ryan sold for ~$5K not that long ago, and I believe this is the first one to sell for under $1K. There are many of us on the registry looking for this card. >>
When you have cash to burn and the value you place in the card is simply the satisfaction of crossing it off your list, I guess no price is "rediculous."
Still, the price of this card has fallen dramaticaly, as the last two have sold for less than $1k. The pop has grown from 1 in 2007 to 10 in 2009. The price will continue to fail.
Folks with more money than patience will pay a lot for the card. Folks with more patience than money will pay far less.
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As PSA is going for perfection grading these PSA 10 Ryans!
a PSA 9 is worth $10 - $20
If I recall, one recently sold for about $1000 or so?
rd
P.S. There are plenty of PSA 9s out there (I've got a few myself, plus a small stack of raw '86 Ryans too!) Guess it is time to sub a Ryan PSA 9 for review?
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I agree. There is so much unopened product for years like '86.
I was the 6th place finisher on the 10.. :^(
I guess people are blind AND dumb
Probably another scam card in a fake or switcheroo holder
<< <i>Runner up bidder was Don Spence, FWIW. >>
Wow, Spence was OUTBID? I didn't know that could happen!
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<< <i>Runner up bidder was Don Spence, FWIW. >>
Wow, Spence was OUTBID? I didn't know that could happen! >>
Me neither. After watching what he was/is doing with 1975s and 1971s, I didn't know it was humanly possible.
<< <i>People are dumb. Not only that, but there is chipping all on the one black border, and I can see touches on the corners on the back of the card. >>
That's why I no longer buy PSA "10's" from that seller...
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<< <i>People are dumb. Not only that, but there is chipping all on the one black border, and I can see touches on the corners on the back of the card. >>
That's why I no longer buy PSA "10's" from that seller... >>
Is there something shady about Just Collect? I bought a few cards from them before with no problem. I can't stand their incessant email marketing. I unsubscribe but everytime I win an auction, they sign me up again
/s/ JackWESQ
<< <i>Baseball Card Exchange has a case of 1986 Topps Baseball for $250.00. Think there might be at least one Ryan PSA 10? >>
Buy one and find out!
The money to be made in that case would probably be in the other PSA 10s you could find. You shouldn't count on a PSA 10 Ryan hiding out in there.
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<< <i>Baseball Card Exchange has a case of 1986 Topps Baseball for $250.00. Think there might be at least one Ryan PSA 10?
/s/ JackWESQ >>
Sounds like another group rip may be in order!!
I was actually the high-bidder for all of three seconds, until the final three snipes came in. I fully expected Don Spence to win the card, as he has the #1 Ryan Registry Set and the 1986 is one of the very few cards he doesn't have in PSA 10. I'm shocked that he got outbid.
The previous poster is correct. The first PSA 10 Ryan sold for ~$5K not that long ago, and I believe this is the first one to sell for under $1K. There are many of us on the registry looking for this card.
Steve
Steve
<< <i>With what I've opened from this year, factory sets seem to be where it's at. The cards have a much deeper color and don't seem to come out with the chipped edges as much. >>
I have not pulled anything worthwhile from rack packs yet, I have pulled a few gradable cards from wax (subbed a few in the gumby sub) that have graded PSA 9s and 10s, but not many.
Out of 2 factory sets, I may have 50-60 PSA 9 candidates and 20-30 PSA 10 candidates, plus I still have two unopened factory sets. Who knows? maybe a gem Ryan awaits me?
NOT!
rd
edit: from the dozen or so racks I ripped so far, I find that under a loope, corners are just full of "fibrous, hairy looking stuff" and are not too sharp. Plus almost every rack that I cracked, "black chipping" was worse on the "rack cards" than with cards from wax or factory sets.
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
TOUGH to find. With the new grading standard, I don't see the POP exploding here.
The card that was sold was not the best 10, but still went for 800+.
I love the design of the 1986 topps.
'86 Topps Ryan PSA 10
If the underbidder on the first one was Donald Spence, he got this one (arguably looks better), at a lower price than the first
Steve
Skip, cmon....did you even bother to look and see who the seller was?
I doubt very much that the seller here would allow something like that to happen.
I do agree with the right top border and the chipping.
Steve
crack them all and resubmit. Or simply send them in for review. At least 1 should upgade, no?
Steve
<< <i>Not ridiculous at all.
I was actually the high-bidder for all of three seconds, until the final three snipes came in. I fully expected Don Spence to win the card, as he has the #1 Ryan Registry Set and the 1986 is one of the very few cards he doesn't have in PSA 10. I'm shocked that he got outbid.
The previous poster is correct. The first PSA 10 Ryan sold for ~$5K not that long ago, and I believe this is the first one to sell for under $1K. There are many of us on the registry looking for this card. >>
When you have cash to burn and the value you place in the card is simply the satisfaction of crossing it off your list, I guess no price is "rediculous."
Still, the price of this card has fallen dramaticaly, as the last two have sold for less than $1k. The pop has grown from 1 in 2007 to 10 in 2009. The price will continue to fail.
Folks with more money than patience will pay a lot for the card.
Folks with more patience than money will pay far less.
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