Nothing to see here. Please move along...

bushmaster8 · May 17, 2009 12:30PM

Is this breaking the rules??

Do I have to remove the word "PCI" to keep this from getting bammed?

PCcoins · May 17, 2009 12:35PM

What you got to lose?

bushmaster8 · May 17, 2009 12:45PM

45 cents is a lot of $ to a pauper like me.

nccoin · May 17, 2009 1:08PM

I tried this once and the auction was ended By Ebay. Your fine if nobody reports it.

HTubbs · May 17, 2009 1:09PM

If you list it as P-C-I they won't catch it...unless of course some gomer reports your listing.

OPA · May 17, 2009 1:20PM

Why take the chance ... Just get a decent shot of your slab showing the label & grade

... However, this may get the auctions nuked: Please note: "United States Postal Money Order is the only form of payment accepted."

airplanenut · May 17, 2009 1:30PM

You can't so much as name the company in the body of the listing, let alone the title.

Frankcoins · May 17, 2009 1:54PM

<< Is this breaking the rules??

Do I have to remove the word "PCI" to keep this from getting bammed? >>

You cannot mention the name or initials of grading services that are not ebay approved in the Title or Text. You can mention the numerical grade in the Specifics or Text. Some eBay "trust and safety" people claim that the photo is part of the description, and won't allow the name of the grading company to show in the photo. This is incorrect, but you may have to fight them if they end it for this reason. Since you cannot give an estimated value, or even bluesheet values for these coins, if you have any price stickers or stock numbers or labels on the slab "which could be a coded value" those must also be removed or photoshopped out. One T&S person who could barely understand English said that I needed to photoshop out the denomination....

By the way, all of the ebay-approved grading services have, or had, cross promotional arrangements where eBay receives
a kickback when ebay users get coins slabbed through special links, such as this.

It's called pay to play.

braddick · May 17, 2009 2:01PM

You're not supposed to but the auction will probably complete unless someone dimes you out.
Neat sample slab, by the way. Those are cool.

(As an aside: placing the initials P C I spaced apart won't do much good as anyone searching "PCI" won't locate that auction thus defeating the purpose and wasting five spaces.)

TwoSides2aCoin · May 17, 2009 2:04PM

My personal opinion is that words like : LQQK, W

W, W@@ W@@ will garner more attention and it's the idiot you want to cater to. eBay prefers the world dummies down for them.

May you good fortune for bay ching and other chop sticks find rewards heavenly.

Ahso ?

thisnamztaken · May 17, 2009 3:47PM

I did an eBay search using PCI in the title and only this one came up.

Using ICG, I got 862 results so I guess they still accept ICG, along with PCGS & NGC. Any others?

airplanenut · May 17, 2009 3:52PM

<< Using ICG, I got 862 results so I guess they still accept ICG, along with PCGS & NGC. Any others?

>>

ANACS

TavernTreasures · May 17, 2009 7:20PM

Watch out. There are squealers (aka: Ebay police) on these boards who would gleefully rat you out for a violation of this stupid Ebay rule.

OchoReales · May 17, 2009 10:00PM

By the way, all of the ebay-approved grading services have, or had, cross promotional arrangements where eBay receives
a kickback when ebay users get coins slabbed through special links, such as this.

It's called pay to play. >>

Thanks for pointing this to everyone out Frank. I haven't been able to locate this for some time. This clearly shows how partisan Ebay really is! It's ridiculous!

Gary

pmac · May 17, 2009 10:34PM

What grade is "NH99"?

OPA · May 17, 2009 10:36PM

<< 

<< Is this breaking the rules??

Do I have to remove the word "PCI" to keep this from getting bammed? >>

You cannot mention the name or initials of grading services that are not ebay approved in the Title or Text. You can mention the numerical grade in the Specifics or Text. Some eBay "trust and safety" people claim that the photo is part of the description, and won't allow the name of the grading company to show in the photo. This is incorrect, but you may have to fight them if they end it for this reason. Since you cannot give an estimated value, or even bluesheet values for these coins, if you have any price stickers or stock numbers or labels on the slab "which could be a coded value" those must also be removed or photoshopped out. One T&S person who could barely understand English said that I needed to photoshop out the denomination....

By the way, all of the ebay-approved grading services have, or had, cross promotional arrangements where eBay receives
a kickback when ebay users get coins slabbed through special links, such as this.

It's called pay to play. >>

As usual, Franks own interpretation ... That NGC direct submission has been available for some time now, even before last years eBay change on Certified Coins, I know, because I've used it in late 2007. I have not seen or know of any similar offers from the other three approved grading services. So where is the kickback? Please let us know with some facts.

HTubbs · May 17, 2009 11:58PM

<< 

(As an aside: placing the initials P C I spaced apart won't do much good as anyone searching "PCI" won't locate that auction thus defeating the purpose and wasting five spaces.) >>

Yes, but it's better than coin only being listed as raw...

garsmith · May 18, 2009 12:04AM

I don't think they will let u - just list it as PCI in the description. Put a image of the PCI label as your free image - host your other images on P-bucket and HTML them into the description. The PCI label will show with your listing header; that's just as good as listing PCI in the title.

MORGANHUNTER2 · May 18, 2009 12:15AM

I thought Ebay was just a venue to sell/auction items?

When is a venue allowed to dictate how someone wants to be recognized for a item they have if they(ebay) scrutinize what is in the mass of the item/auction?

You are basically paying for a service to advertise your item, just as if it were in a newspaper or a catalog, nothing different there!?

Ebay at times sucks.

bushmaster8 · May 18, 2009 2:52AM

Smoebody must have ratted me out. It's history.

19Lyds · May 18, 2009 3:43AM

I would like the RAT to come forward and take his/her knocks!

And to send Bushmaster his $0.45 cents!

Robb · May 18, 2009 3:45AM

Gotta admit, Bushmaster was begging to be reported.

CoinJunkie · May 18, 2009 4:05AM

<< I would like the RAT to come forward and take his/her knocks!

And to send Bushmaster his $0.45 cents! >>

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if eBay has automated this by now. I got an error trying to upload an
old listing that still contained the words "money order".

BECOKA · May 18, 2009 4:11AM

I thought the ANA was pulling out of the e-bay thing because of too many complaints, is e-bay still trying to do this approved slab thing? Does it really work?

PawPaul · May 18, 2009 7:56AM

.........so you had to try ;

bushmaster8 · May 20, 2009 6:38AM

The cool PCI sample is back up sans the bad word...all is well...it is the will of Landreau...

pennyannie · May 20, 2009 2:06PM

Bushmaster8- Just by posting this thread you have now been added to 30 peoples watch list. The only problem with the 30 watchers is that they work for free for ebay reporting sellers that violate the rules. Now that listing fees are so cheap the bite is not to bad. I have had 2 or 3 auctions pulled for some issue out of 100's. Silly me one of them got nuked cause i gave a close up of the reverse and did not show the whole reverse of the slab. Sometimes it can work out to your benefit. I listed a SEGS coin incorrectly (i did not use SEGS anywhere that i can recall) and it got nuked. A buyer contacted me that i had sold to before and bought the coin for 1500 outside of ebay so i saved the fees on that one.

Do the listings that show naked people covered in coins get pulled? That one selling the peace dollars a few weeks back....

TavernTreasures · May 20, 2009 7:53PM

<< Bushmaster8- Just by posting this thread you have now been added to 30 peoples watch list. The only problem with the 30 watchers is that they work for free for ebay reporting sellers that violate the rules. Now that listing fees are so cheap the bite is not to bad. I have had 2 or 3 auctions pulled for some issue out of 100's. Silly me one of them got nuked cause i gave a close up of the reverse and did not show the whole reverse of the slab. Sometimes it can work out to your benefit. I listed a SEGS coin incorrectly (i did not use SEGS anywhere that i can recall) and it got nuked. A buyer contacted me that i had sold to before and bought the coin for 1500 outside of ebay so i saved the fees on that one.

Do the listings that show naked people covered in coins get pulled? That one selling the peace dollars a few weeks back.... >>

I agree. The rats on this board are scurrying.

Connecticoin · May 20, 2009 9:28PM

<< Thanks for pointing this to everyone out Frank. I haven't been able to locate this for some time. This clearly shows how partisan Ebay really is! It's ridiculous!

Gary >>

Uh, yeah, partisan against overgraded and problem coins in crap slab and self-slab holders. This is one of eBay's changes that was actually good -- although I think they should approve the old Hallmark, Green PCI, and the new DGS holders as they, in general, are properly graded.

Frankcoins · May 22, 2009 2:14AM

<< 

As usual, Franks own interpretation ... That NGC direct submission has been available for some time now, even before last years eBay change on Certified Coins, I know, because I've used it in late 2007. I have not seen or know of any similar offers from the other three approved grading services. So where is the kickback? Please let us know with some facts. >>

It only makes sense that these partnerships were in place, and proving profitable to both parties, BEFORE Ebay banned those companies who do not participate. As I said, PAY TO PLAY..

Proof of PCGS' ebay partnership

From Here

CLCT is the largest third-party authenticator of coins, sports cards, stamps and autographs, partly due to CLCT's partnership with eBay

And of ICG's ebay partnership

Welcome Ebay users to ICG!

TwoSides2aCoin · May 22, 2009 2:24AM

Discriminatory practices will continue as long as people wear mink and adorn themselves with ivory.

As for coins, I think eBay is stupid.

lathmach · May 22, 2009 3:33AM

<< Bushmaster8- Just by posting this thread you have now been added to 30 peoples watch list. The only problem with the 30 watchers is that they work for free for ebay reporting sellers that violate the rules. Now that listing fees are so cheap the bite is not to bad. I have had 2 or 3 auctions pulled for some issue out of 100's. Silly me one of them got nuked cause i gave a close up of the reverse and did not show the whole reverse of the slab. Sometimes it can work out to your benefit. I listed a SEGS coin incorrectly (i did not use SEGS anywhere that i can recall) and it got nuked. A buyer contacted me that i had sold to before and bought the coin for 1500 outside of ebay so i saved the fees on that one.

Do the listings that show naked people covered in coins get pulled? That one selling the peace dollars a few weeks back....pennyannie >>

They were Walking Liberty Half Dollars not Peace Dollars.
Just shows what YOU were paying attention to.

Ray

Frankcoins · May 22, 2009 5:52AM

<< 

They were Walking Liberty Half Dollars not Peace Dollars.
Just shows what YOU were paying attention to.

Ray >>

I bid on the Flying Eagle cent on her nipples, but the auction got ended....

WinPitcher · May 22, 2009 5:55AM

Nothing to see here either.

Steve

Nothing to see here. Please move along...

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