<< <i>Had two professional numismatists look at the coin in hand for me before I bid on it and they both disagree with your assessment. >>
How did they make their determinations? >>
By each having 30+ years of experience of looking at coins in hand in auction. I can tell you that the pics do not depict the kind of luster this coin exhibits in hand, and the depth of the color on both sides is not typical of a seated quarter from the 1840's that has been dipped and retoned.
<< <i>Had two professional numismatists look at the coin in hand for me before I bid on it and they both disagree with your assessment. >>
How did they make their determinations? >>
By each having 30+ years of experience of looking at coins in hand in auction. I can tell you that the pics do not depict the kind of luster this coin exhibits in hand, and the depth of the color on both sides is not typical of a seated quarter from the 1840's that has been dipped and retoned.
john >>
I stand by my original assessment, as there is no way to tell with certainty.
"It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
<< <i>Had two professional numismatists look at the coin in hand for me before I bid on it and they both disagree with your assessment. >>
How did they make their determinations? >>
By each having 30+ years of experience of looking at coins in hand in auction. I can tell you that the pics do not depict the kind of luster this coin exhibits in hand, and the depth of the color on both sides is not typical of a seated quarter from the 1840's that has been dipped and retoned.
john >>
I stand by my original assessment, as there is no way to tell with certainty. >>
There is nothing certain in this world but death. I am only arguing my points as being reasonably certain based on the opinions of two others and myself who have held the coin in hand and have had a little experience with this series. (Would your opinion be different if I told you both coins in the original post have a CAC sticker??)
<< <i>Had two professional numismatists look at the coin in hand for me before I bid on it and they both disagree with your assessment. >>
How did they make their determinations? >>
By each having 30+ years of experience of looking at coins in hand in auction. I can tell you that the pics do not depict the kind of luster this coin exhibits in hand, and the depth of the color on both sides is not typical of a seated quarter from the 1840's that has been dipped and retoned.
john >>
I stand by my original assessment, as there is no way to tell with certainty. >>
There is nothing certain in this world but death. I am only arguing my points as being reasonably certain based on the opinions of two others and myself who have held the coin in hand and have had a little experience with this series. (Would your opinion be different if I told you both coins in the original post have a CAC sticker??) >>
I'm sure there are hundreds of coins with CAC stickers which have been dipped.
"It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
<< <i>I stand by my original assessment, as there is no way to tell with certainty. >>
I'll take the dual in hand experienced assessment over the internet chatroom picture assessment any day. >>
The problem is there's no way to know with any level of certainty regardless of "experience." I just wish people would get over the "never been dipped" and "original skin" bull. I posted the only coins for which one can legitimately claim they have never been dipped (unless ugly toning means undipped).
"It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
The 1844-O quarter is certainly not original. The dullness and microscopic roughness around UNITED STATES OF AMERICA QUAR DOL indicates areas that once were very heavily toned, and after dipping now show the greyish residue which does not retone.
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Here's a Crusty 1929-S 25C SLQ Broadstruck Out Of Collar PCGS MS64 the reverse is quite dreamy even for a non error SLQ
<< <i>It's really tough to find original skinned Mint Errors as most have been dipped to showcase the defect.
Here's a Crusty 1929-S 25C SLQ Broadstruck Out Of Collar PCGS MS64 the reverse is quite dreamy even for a non error SLQ
Neat coin. Sometimes it's tough just to find a nice undipped SLQ. No wild color or anything, just original and unmessed with:
<< <i>Had two professional numismatists look at the coin in hand for me before I bid on it and they both disagree with your assessment. >>
How did they make their determinations?
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<< <i>Had two professional numismatists look at the coin in hand for me before I bid on it and they both disagree with your assessment. >>
How did they make their determinations? >>
By each having 30+ years of experience of looking at coins in hand in auction. I can tell you that the pics do not depict the kind of luster this coin exhibits in hand, and the depth of the color on both sides is not typical of a seated quarter from the 1840's that has been dipped and retoned.
john
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<< <i>Had two professional numismatists look at the coin in hand for me before I bid on it and they both disagree with your assessment. >>
How did they make their determinations? >>
By each having 30+ years of experience of looking at coins in hand in auction. I can tell you that the pics do not depict the kind of luster this coin exhibits in hand, and the depth of the color on both sides is not typical of a seated quarter from the 1840's that has been dipped and retoned.
john >>
I stand by my original assessment, as there is no way to tell with certainty.
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<< <i>Had two professional numismatists look at the coin in hand for me before I bid on it and they both disagree with your assessment. >>
How did they make their determinations? >>
By each having 30+ years of experience of looking at coins in hand in auction. I can tell you that the pics do not depict the kind of luster this coin exhibits in hand, and the depth of the color on both sides is not typical of a seated quarter from the 1840's that has been dipped and retoned.
john >>
I stand by my original assessment, as there is no way to tell with certainty. >>
There is nothing certain in this world but death. I am only arguing my points as being reasonably certain based on the opinions of two others and myself who have held the coin in hand and have had a little experience with this series. (Would your opinion be different if I told you both coins in the original post have a CAC sticker??)
<< <i>I stand by my original assessment, as there is no way to tell with certainty. >>
I'll take the dual in hand experienced assessment over the internet chatroom picture assessment any day.
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<< <i>Had two professional numismatists look at the coin in hand for me before I bid on it and they both disagree with your assessment. >>
How did they make their determinations? >>
By each having 30+ years of experience of looking at coins in hand in auction. I can tell you that the pics do not depict the kind of luster this coin exhibits in hand, and the depth of the color on both sides is not typical of a seated quarter from the 1840's that has been dipped and retoned.
john >>
I stand by my original assessment, as there is no way to tell with certainty. >>
There is nothing certain in this world but death. I am only arguing my points as being reasonably certain based on the opinions of two others and myself who have held the coin in hand and have had a little experience with this series. (Would your opinion be different if I told you both coins in the original post have a CAC sticker??) >>
I'm sure there are hundreds of coins with CAC stickers which have been dipped.
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<< <i>I stand by my original assessment, as there is no way to tell with certainty. >>
I'll take the dual in hand experienced assessment over the internet chatroom picture assessment any day.
The problem is there's no way to know with any level of certainty regardless of "experience." I just wish people would get over the "never been dipped" and "original skin" bull. I posted the only coins for which one can legitimately claim they have never been dipped (unless ugly toning means undipped).
What makes you think those blast white morgans havn't been dipped?
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What makes you think those blast white morgans havn't been dipped? >>
Look closely, they're in GSA holders (the Gov thought about dipping the CC Morgans but decided against it).
<< <i>Steve,
What makes you think those blast white morgans havn't been dipped? >>
Edit: Woops. Somebody already responded....
Love the luster on that 1909-O Barber, Illini!
-Paul