Help with a Pedigree, or 'now you see it, now you don't'!

OchoReales

Upon noticing a particular coin coming up for auction, it seems that the famous pedigree for the coin is not on the slab. I checked in my copy of the previous auction for the exact coin (color plates) and it is the very coin in the same TPG holder in the same grade. My question is this...
if I am sucessful in my quest for this coin, will the TPG who originally and secondarily holdered the coin, reholder it again (same grade) but with the pedigree again?

Gary

Hussulo

I don't know it might be hard to prove unless its a really rare coin or has some really obvious and unique features.

What happened to the Pedigree?!?

My guess is someone cracked it out and re-submitted it hopping for an upgrade. Pretty sad that its lost its pedigree.

OchoReales

The features are quite noticable, ie... toning and marks.

Gary

OchoReales

<< <i>I crossed an ICCS-graded Canadian 1c with the Pittman pedigree over to PCGS and the slab came back without the pedigree. It happens.... >>



This coin was originally from the Eliasberg Foreign Gold sale. It is plated as well. It is now in the same TPG graded holder with same grade, but no Pedigree. I'm not sure if someone tried to upgrade it, but it IS the same exact coin. If I'm the sucessful bidder, I'd like to be able to get back into the Pedigree'd holder, and was wondering if anyone ever encountered this before and what the outcome might have been.

Gary

7Jaguars

I think a coin is more than just the coin and its holder as pedigree should be kept of record. Lord help the coin that has been in more than one renowned collection as I guess there is only so much room on the tag. One of the advantages of 2x2s is that there is room to keep some records on them. We need to try to keep paperwork.

Another minor related problem is when a coin has been part of a pedigreed set but now broken out to go it alone - I can think of Norweb British "off year" proof sets where coins have been picked out. With regards to the latter, fortunately most have been kept intact (I believe her 1937 matt set was broken up).

MrEureka

It should not be a problem getting the provenance back on the holder.

OchoReales

Thanks Andy!

Gary