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markj111
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I am still trying to figure this out. I used my free subs for reviews. I hit on three of six (the Mantle A.S got a full bump from a 7). I guess that is not bad, but the other three were extremely nice as well. Live and learn.
1 01737143 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1961 TOPPS 578 MICKEY MANTLE ALL STAR Card US
2 1 01722521 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 200 MICKEY MANTLE Card US
3 1 05010409 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1963 TOPPS 390 HANK AARON Card US
4 1 02515627 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1966 TOPPS 30 PETE ROSE Card US
5 1 01737158 NEAR MINT 7 1966 TOPPS 50 MICKEY MANTLE Card US
6 1 30754632 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1968 TOPPS 280 MICKEY MANTLE Card US
1 01737143 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1961 TOPPS 578 MICKEY MANTLE ALL STAR Card US
2 1 01722521 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 200 MICKEY MANTLE Card US
3 1 05010409 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1963 TOPPS 390 HANK AARON Card US
4 1 02515627 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1966 TOPPS 30 PETE ROSE Card US
5 1 01737158 NEAR MINT 7 1966 TOPPS 50 MICKEY MANTLE Card US
6 1 30754632 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1968 TOPPS 280 MICKEY MANTLE Card US
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"Molon Labe"
Are they really willing to send back cards to the loyal customer who has paid $5-10/card with no bump? An 8.0 and an 8.5 are so damn close that nobody is going to call them up out if they round up, and it's not worth their trouble to piss off a regular/loyal member.
Some of you may say "Well, they don't know the card has been resubmitted for a bump". You don't think on some kinda checklist that an evaluator has prior to grading tips them off that this card has been resubmitted for a "bump"?
Moreover, PSA has encouraged members to resubmit after their new .5 system implementation (for which they make nice $) and so if they deny all those bumps that will only further anger members who may have felt PSA was too late taking on a .5 system. In the short term, PSA must feel an urge to do some bumps...
collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
<< <i>Do you think a PSA evaluator feels some sort of tug/obligation to give resubmits a "bump"? Or is the card long removed from the case at that point? if they have 6 cards in slabs looking for a bump, and they know a loyal customer has resubmitted for $10/pop, wouldn't they feel some pull to give the card a .5 higher grade?
Are they really willing to send back cards to the loyal customer who has paid $5-10/card with no bump? An 8.0 and an 8.5 are so damn close that nobody is going to call them up out if they round up, and it's not worth their trouble to piss off a regular/loyal member.
Some of you may say "Well, they don't know the card has been resubmitted for a bump". You don't think on some kinda checklist that an evaluator has prior to grading tips them off that this card has been resubmitted for a "bump"?
Moreover, PSA has encouraged members to resubmit after their new .5 system implementation (for which they make nice $) and so if they deny all those bumps that will only further anger members who may have felt PSA was too late taking on a .5 system. In the short term, PSA must feel the short-term urge to do some bumps but the long term is a different as their strict grading principles may suffer. >>
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Pat,
I would hope that the PSA graders would follow the intent and policies of the program. Below is an excerpt that spells out their expectations. As far as PSA doing it as a "ploy" to make more money .... that's a toss up with many, though those of us that have made money ourselves utilizing the half-point system may have our own point of view.
"In order for a card to be considered for the half-point increase, it must exhibit qualities that separate it from the average card within the particular grade. In general, the centering may be the most important factor in achieving the half-point increase with eye-appeal being so crucial in the grader evaluation. Since centering is so important and clearly visible to most collectors, the strength or weakness of the centering will have a significant impact on the final outcome.
In most cases, a card would have to exhibit centerin g that is five to ten percenta ge points better than the tolerance listed within a particular grade, at minimum, in order to achieve the half-point increase. It is important to note that there may be cases where the overall strength of the card, such as the quality of the corners and print, will give the card the ed ge it needs even though it exhibits only marginal centering for the grade. This is especially true for cards that fall within the bottom half of the PSA 1-10 scale.
In addition, at the lower end of the scale, eye-appeal will be equally important. They are times when a card will fall into a grade of PSA VG 3 or lower based on a technical defect such as tape or glue residue, significant paper loss on the reverse or some other defect. By having the half- grade available, it will allow the grader to better reward cards that have nice eye-appeal for the grade despite exhibitin g a technical flaw which prevents it from reachin g the next whole grade hi gher.
Keep in mind that a card that reaches a half-point grade is considered an exceptional example within the particular grade. In other words, the half-point does not represent the mid-point between grades. It is a way of distinguishing between average cards within the grade and ones that exhibit premium quality. Furthermore, cards that do not achieve the half-point increase and remain at the whole number grade are not viewed as “low-end” for the grade by PSA experts.
Remember that there is absolutely no obligation to send your cards to PSA for half-point consideration. The whole grades, PSA 1 through 10, still apply and are valid. This new system is designed to reward cards for their high-end attributes.
This re-grade service is entirely optional."
PoppaJ
<< <i>which cards bumped? i know the rose did and aaron >>
The 61 Mantle A.S. went from a 7 to an 8. The mystery is why it was a 7 in the first place.
<< <i>Thanks bud, very informative. I know PSA is a reputable company I just thought it would be very hard for them to resist the urge for a bump. Sounds like they safe-guarded the process to resist that temptation. Thanks, Pat >>
I find that bumps are given very sparingly. As time goes on, more people understand what to look for in order to obtain the extra .5, but a 50% success rate is almost ungodly.