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Canadian buyer complains about my shipping rate...HE PAID

Low fb dork wins a card for $1.91.
Complains that I charge $3 to ship. He send email saying it's steep.
I told him bubble mailer cost about $1, and postage is about $1.48, plus
the gas to the post office.

I offered to send it in a plain white envelope via mintacular style for $1.
I think postage for letter to Canada is about .80 cents? With the cost of envelope
and top loader, and my gas to PO, is $1 fair?

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  • Hell, I'd tell him to pay the shipping or he is free to come pick the card up from you! I hate the shipping haglers on eBay. $3 in a bubble mailer is right on.
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  • MintacularMintacular Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭
    What card did you sell? Also, and I feel the same way as you do about shipping & handling, but from a pure buyer's perspective, they do not like to know that "gas" is part of your shipping equation--so for future reference I would not cite that...
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Bryan

    No need to tell him anything. It was listed in the auction the guy could either bid or not bid.

    It is none of his business what your costs are related to shipping.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    Tell him to just pay the $3.00 AAAA
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I offered to send it in a plain white envelope via mintacular style

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  • $3 is certainly a fair cost to ship and quite honestly very reasonable IMO. I don't think twice seeing a $3 shipping cost when I am considering bidding on something. The buyer is being a tool and worthy of being blocked IMO.
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  • bighurt2000bighurt2000 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭
    Canada Sucksimage
    Sorry this happened to you.

    James
  • MintacularMintacular Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭
    The buyer is being unfair but I do think there is a larger and more important idea to draw from this thread--although perhaps unintended. What did you think the card was going to sell for approx? Were there similar cards as part of a set break with shipping discounts and this guy unluckily won just one card?

    I know it sucks but nobody likes to pay $2 for a card and $3 for shipping--in their mind it seems out of balance even though that is how much it costs you to send them the card.

    I try to never sell something where the shipping cost itself exceeds 25% of total purchase cost. If I sell a single that will go for $7 or $8 and my shipping is $2.50, that's generally ok. But if the card is a $1-$7 then I prefer to lot it together with others to make sure shipping is not a big chunk of the total cost. Took me a while to figure this one out...

    Hope this helps, maybe you just had an unlucky auction, etc.
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    That's why I make int'l bidders email me first. Too many issues...I also rarely sell anything less than $15.00 in value either. Seems like the largest issues come from the dollar items.

    The tool shouldn't have bid if he didn't want to pay the shipping.
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    EBAY is not a great place to sell tiny-price items.



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  • MiniDuffMiniDuff Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭
    I felt really bad doing it, but I stopped allowing international bidders due to silliness like that. I've still done it on a case by case basis offline.
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  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    The purchaser should always factor the shipping in with the price of the card...sometimes I get low feedback buyers who do this...I think they go online and buy a lot of low-price cards and then when it comes time to checkout, they see a huge shipping bill to go along with a small purchase amount...this and a little bit of buyers remorse.

    I, as a buyer, have no problem paying whatever price for shipping as long as the seller uses the money wisely, ex: no white envelopes for 3-5.00 shipping.


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  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Well, he hasn't responded back.
    I have a spotless feedback of 4600+ and I'm thinking the tool
    might just neg me. With the price of the card, I'm not sure it's worth it.
    It could go in the garbage for all I care. I'm blocking him right now.

    Oh, check out his ID It's $hoodlum$
    How fitting.
  • bighurt2000bighurt2000 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭


    << <i>EBAY is not a great place to sell tiny-price items. >>



    Or anything else with the fees and people you have to deal with but it all we got.

    James
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    EBAY is not a great place to sell tiny-price items.

    I agree completely. This week's auction consisted of 36 graded cards, 4 video games, and I had 6 raw cards
    cos I just wanted them out. Made $1,200+ which I'm stoked. Will pay for submissions.

    In retrospect, I may just send the card for free to this idiot now....his card of course was one of the raw cards.
  • MintacularMintacular Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭
    Don't lose your cool. Forget it happened, make the buyer happy and move on even though you want to tell him how you really feel. Do what you can to limit/prevent this situation again (if at all possible)...

    I had a "gentleman" at eBay give me a negative b/c there was one missing .50 cent low series common card missing out of a 1971 Topps 752-card set. I almost fell out of my seat when I got the negative. I swallowed my pride, fixed the problem, and now the negative is gone. It really sucks to have to grovel like that but it comes with the territory...
  • bighurt2000bighurt2000 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭
    Bryan
    Don't given to this jerk. If you given he wins and what stops him from keep doing it again.

    James
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  • BrickBrick Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ask this idiot, sorry I mean ask this gentleman to send you a pre paid self addressed bubble mailer or envelope or whatever he wants the card shipped in. Perhaps then the gentleman, actually the idiot may have a better idea of what is involved in getting cards shipped. But then you may get a neg because it showed up with postage due.
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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    cancel the deal, block anyone outside of the US.

    Then place 2 stamps on the card and his address on a label and mail it to him.
  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    This is not a Canadian issue.


    US buyers pull the same crap.


    I'd tell the guy to pound sand, the shipping is 3.00

    If he fails to pay file a NPB that way if he leaves a negative

    You have some recourse.

    Hopefully theturd won't even reply to it.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Low fb dork wins a card for $1.91.
    Complains that I charge $3 to ship. He send email saying it's steep.
    I told him bubble mailer cost about $1, and postage is about $1.48, plus
    the gas to the post office.

    I offered to send it in a plain white envelope via mintacular style for $1.
    I think postage for letter to Canada is about .80 cents? With the cost of envelope
    and top loader, and my gas to PO, is $1 fair? >>



    image +1 for throwing Mintacular under the bus. lmao

    brian
  • Canadians are stinky.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Could someone point out where I said this was a Canadian issue?

    I ship only to the US. I don't need the added hassle involved in the shipping out of the US and I certainly don't need the pool of idiots to win my items enlarged.
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bryan

    No need to tell him anything. It was listed in the auction the guy could either bid or not bid.

    It is none of his business what your costs are related to shipping.


    Steve >>



    i concur with steve, he pays it or he doesn't he read the auction
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  • Another stupid thread .........

    care to post about the 4000 +++ hassle free tranactions ???
  • If Canada became part of the United States, would Minnesota be the new Midwest?
  • onebamafanonebamafan Posts: 1,318 ✭✭
    Do not get me started on shipping to Canada...................tell him too bad, aye! You agreed when you bid!
  • As a Canadian, I can say, this happens the other way as well. But I'm starting to think I should itemize how much it costs to ship. 1) Bubblemailer (.79) 2) Ultra Pro sleeve. (.01) 3) Ultra Pro top loader (.15) 4) Label from Staples for Paypal printing. (works out to about .20 per label). 5) Actual postage. (3.85 Can-US) It adds up to five bucks! But I don't even re-charge for everything, only actual postage (which is still steep). So I'm actually taking a $1.15 hit for packing materials every time I sell a card. I would tell the guy to take a hike.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    John

    My reply was not in reference to any statement that you made but to the OP
    who used "Canadian" in the Title.


    Steve

    Good for you.
  • Yankees001Yankees001 Posts: 1,496
    Insist they pay the full shipping as listed in the auction.

    If they refuse to pay, file a dispute with ebay.

    Or just cancel the auction, which is easier.

    This is why i haven't shipped to Canada in over 4 years.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    You have not shipped to Canada in over 4 years because someone balked at paying 3.00 shipping?

    Or is it because tracking costs are crazy?


    If someone from the US balks at your shipping charges will you refuse to sell here too?

    It has nothing to do with this buyer being Canadian. It has everything to do with him being a cheap skate.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭

    Neil Young would kick your @rses!, ...and nightcrawler too! image

    My suggestion, would be to email him again, offer to take $1 off the shipping, and explain in a very nice way, that you would be loosing if you made it any less than $2 to Canada!

    Bite the bullet for $1.00, "loose the battle, win the war", no bad feedback, and move on to the next battle! image


    rd
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭
    Since it is that cheap of a card, I would take the webcam, make a video of you burning the card, post it on youtube of the burning and WHY you are burning it then send him the link. Oh, and share it with the rest of us.
  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    Ask the guy what he wants to pay and take whatever he offers you.
    When you fill out the customs tag put in $191 and leave out the decimal place by accident.
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Didn't mean a start a war between us and our neighbor.
    50% of my sales goes to our neighbor up north cos I deal with hockey.
    This is the first time I've ever had anyone question my shipping.
    Still waiting to hear from the guy.
  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If Canada became part of the United States, would Minnesota be the new Midwest? >>



    Dude we are the midwest. And your welcome for our constant vigilance protecting our nation from the ne'er do wells from the north. image
  • I receive a lot of my cards from the U.S.
    3.00 is very reasonable and in line with what the good sellers charge me.
    On occasion I run into an item where the auction states shipping to the U.S. only but I find that emailing and asking up front if they are willing to ship to me usually brings a positive reply, although sometimes the cost of shipping to me is higher.
    I expect that, and that is a cost of the auction that I factor in.
    The fact is if shipping is stated in the auction and you don't like it, don't bid.
    If not stated, ask.
    I don't know how this will turn out for you, but doofuses are everywhere and odds are you will run into them on occasion.
  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    Hangovers suck north and south of the border.

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    I hope this works out for you Brian.
  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When you fill out the customs tag put in $191 and leave out the decimal place by accident. >>



    Now that is advice!! Great idea!! That is funny.

    Not as funny as a clown bleeding from the eyes and ears, but still funny.
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Well, the guy paid me this morning.
    I get a Paypal payment for the whole thing (includes $3 shipping).

    I hope that's the end of it (knock on wood).

    I'm going to start adding this to my description:

    "shipping prices are non-negotiable. Please bid accordingly and apply
    the shipping cost to your bid. If you don't like my shipping, please look elsewhere.
    Thank you."
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    ".."shipping prices are non-negotiable. Please bid accordingly and apply
    the shipping cost to your bid. If you don't like my shipping, please look elsewhere.
    Thank you."..."

    ////////////////////////////////////


    Reflects poorly on your listings.

    Bad idea.
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  • PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    I'd like to apologize to Jason Chartrand for this embarrassing thread. image
  • bighurt2000bighurt2000 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭
    Bryan,
    I would only add shipping prices are non-negotiable and leave the rest out.

    James
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    I would only add shipping prices are non-negotiable and leave the rest out

    Got it.

    Thanks all.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    EBAY is not a great place to sell tiny-price items.

    I disagree. It's a great place to sell $1.50 items an spend the majority of your day worrying about how those transactions pan out, then spend hours on a message board asking questions about what you should do.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    lol

    Steve
    Good for you.
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