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Saints may seem quiet now buy just TRY to find a really good one!

I haven't seen a truly good date, high-grade Saint that was PQ or original in months! There are a few good dates outthere but they are retreads from previous auctions that can't find a good home.

This is a great sign that great stuff will only appear in a good market. No one will sell them cheap.
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    What would you attribute this to? Also wanted to add a second question if you don't mid. How many coins have to exist before they are included in the registry. I was thinking of the 1933 Double eagle suit. If the coins are released to the Langbords, would that trigger their inclusion in the registry since they would now be available to collector's?
    Andy
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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Saints may seem quiet now >>

    and guys with 'saint' in their handle seem quiet too.

    Coincidence?image


    I don't think so.
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭✭
    Saintguru

    I know why...they're all in your box...just lookimage
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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a case of tight hands.
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    saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What would you attribute this to? Also wanted to add a second question if you don't mid. How many coins have to exist before they are included in the registry. I was thinking of the 1933 Double eagle suit. If the coins are released to the Langbords, would that trigger their inclusion in the registry since they would now be available to collector's? >>



    The real collectors with the best coins have NO interest is selling POP10 or lower rarities when the market is soft. In actuality, most can't conceive of selling at all but they eventually will. Some will never sell...especially the biggest collector of all who choses to remain anonymous. I know him but not enough and I;d love to know more, I've nought some of his coins when he upgraded to a POP1 finest known a few iI'd LOVE to have cash now but times. Personally, I'd like to have some cash but not but selling my coins. Without sounding gentrified most Saint collectors consider these to be the King of Coins. Now I mean no disrespect to other stuff like 18th C magnificent coins or Bust gold from 1808-1934, etal...these are indeed Kings as well. But a rare POP2-5 RARE-DATE Saint is a wonder to behold and "we" feel that if they are priced at $150K now they will be $275K in a good market. The problem is that we'll still love looking at them then too! It's a love of the game collection just as all the greatest of the great sets are. I'll sell someday...one coin when my daughter goes to college for example. I could sell my 1927-S and pay for Princeton and possibly grad school as well! image

    Re the 1933's the easy answer is that IF, IF they were freed up to the numismatic community they would of course be regular issue again under certain circumstances. But I am in a minority that thinks this will never happen. In the best scenario for the Langbords, perhaps the government settles with them for an undisclosed sum and keeps them ALL as National Treasures. I just don't see ant legal argument that would make these legal tender with all the commotion created in the 30's and 40's as well as the sale of the one coin. It was made clear that ONE coin had special consideration and they ruled that no other coin could be monetized. That would likely end up in the Supreme Court if it went that far, but if they had even a sgread of a case the Treasury would buy them out for a sum much lower than the sale of the previous coin and take posession. If i had to guess I'd say somewhere in the $10-20 million range for all 10 coins at most. But I wouldn't spend the money yet if I was them. image

    I'm quiet because i discovered Facebook during a quiet market and am overwhelmed at reconnecting with people that have crossed my path over the last 50 years. It's quite an amazing feeling to find thatinasmuch as we think we live here and now, that we've left tracks all over the place and people love rekindling those roots and it puts a wonderful "depth" to who you think you are. You find that your past has influenced other peope and that it's not just memories but seeds of our own small history. Hence my quiet period lately. Also I;ve been very busy at work and it's been great contrary to what one may think.

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    TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    Jay,

    You speak the gospel, when you are talking about not wanting to sell any of your treasures. It would be nice to be able to hold forever, and just possess the greatest( or near great).

    The time will come, like for your daughter, or the vacation home in Costa Rico, when all those smarts for buying and holding the right coins will pay off beautifully.

    I plan to buy a jet with the one you graciously sold me.image
    TahoeDale
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    pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    1 saint for college and 2 saints to pay for the weddingimage
    Mark
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    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    perhaps the government settles with them for an undisclosed sum and keeps them ALL as National Treasures

    Just what we need - a dozen 1933's gathering dust in the Smithsonian's vaults.

    If the government wins, they should settle with the owner of the current legal coin and then sell the ten new specimens via auction
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    Saintguru, thank you very much for your informative answers.
    Andy
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the government wins, they should settle with the owner of the current legal coin...


    Beyond a guaranty of clear title, does the government have any obligation to the owner of the current legal coin? I don't see how, but I'm listening.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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    With all the fortunes that have been destroyed in the last year, I wonder if it's a matter of time before people are forced to let go of their collections. They need to keep gas in the Rolls somehow.
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,795 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like a case of tight hands. >>



    More like strong hands to me.

    Most owners of the great Saints do not appear to need to sell them. Many of them had already been churned around in the past 8 years.

    JMHO.

    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
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    saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1 saint for college and 2 saints to pay for the weddingimage >>



    yeah RIIIIGHT!! image
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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 7,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Need a Barber Half with ANACS photo certificate. If you have one for sale please PM me. Current Ebay auctions
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭
    have you considered studying die varieites for these? other then the overdate, nobody even looks for such things these days for large gold, guess there's not enough $$$ in it. but if you did start exploring die study, you'd probably open up all kinds of a huge mkt. to yourself for new & high caliber coins

    K S
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    pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Sounds like a case of tight hands. >>



    More like strong hands to me.

    Most owners of the great Saints do not appear to need to sell them. Many of them had already been churned around in the past 8 years.

    JMHO. >>

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    You were able to express exactly how I felt about the owners of "Great Saints", they don't need to sell.
    Paul
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    You better start praying that the 2-saint wedding doesn't come up during a bad market...image
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    saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Does "wedding in the back yard sound cheezy?" image
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    pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does "wedding in the back yard sound cheezy?" image >>


    Been there & done that. It's a great time to have many more invited guests than usual and have a great time too!
    Paul
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    saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    and CHEEZE....
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do they have backyards in Nirvana?

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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    saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Trust me, it ain't Nirvana. image
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Isn't a 'really good saint' an oxymoron? image
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    saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Isn't a 'really good saint' an oxymoron? image >>



    Isn't "tradedollarnut" a mental illness?
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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Isn't a 'really good saint' an oxymoron? image >>



    Isn't "tradedollarnut" a mental illness? >>


    Hey Kids, let's have some fun with anagrams!

    Saintguru ===> Sugar unit

    Tradedollarnut ===> A rant troll dude

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