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Kentucky Derby is coming up, who do you like?
RonBurgundy
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I like, in this order:
I Want Revenge
Quality Road
Dunkirk
Friesan Fire
I do not like Pioneer of the Nile. I do not think he is a special horse and until a horse successfully transitions from the synthetic to the dirt I am not going to trust them. I also think the Dubai horses are poseurs.
I like Musket Man to possibly hit the board.
I Want Revenge
Quality Road
Dunkirk
Friesan Fire
I do not like Pioneer of the Nile. I do not think he is a special horse and until a horse successfully transitions from the synthetic to the dirt I am not going to trust them. I also think the Dubai horses are poseurs.
I like Musket Man to possibly hit the board.
Ron Burgundy
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I forget the location...I think it's run at Yonkers Raceway.
<< <i>I forget the location...I think it's run at Yonkers Raceway. >>
YIKES! Don't bring back those memories! If it were not for Roosevelt, Yonkers, Belmont and Aqueduct back in the day I'd probably be able to give all the BIG BOYS on THE REGISTRY a run for their money! LOL
Doug
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<< <i>
<< <i>I forget the location...I think it's run at Yonkers Raceway. >>
YIKES! Don't bring back those memories! If it were not for Roosevelt, Yonkers, Belmont and Aqueduct back in the day I'd probably be able to give all the BIG BOYS on THE REGISTRY a run for their money! LOL >>
Well yes...but through our losses, you and I "improved the breed" as they say. LOL
My money is on the Venezuelan polo pony.
Dead!?! What!?!
Scratch that.
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looking for low grade t205's psa 1-2
Pioneer of the Nile
Dunkirk
We should place one giant PSA board bet and if we win do a group break from BBCE with the winnings.
T222's PSA 1 or better
Pioneer of the Nile will have to prove it to me.
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Kentucky Derby Betting May Skid as Recession Hits Horse Country
By Nancy Kercheval
May 1 (Bloomberg) -- Kentucky Derby betting may fall 30 percent as the worst economy in a generation hits Louisville.
With hotel occupancy down 15 percent, the 135th Derby is unlikely to contribute the estimated $70 million to the local economy it usually generates, tourism officials said. Betting on the race, in which I Want Revenge is a 3-1 favorite, may slump by almost a third, Las Vegas oddsmakers said.
“This is a unique circumstance,” said Jim Wood, president and chief executive officer of the Louisville Convention and Visitors Bureau. “Usually we’re filled to the rafters with Derby guests.”
Rising unemployment and job insecurity, a lack of available credit, falling property values and declines in retirement savings and other investments have prompted people to reduce spending. Companies are also paring spending on entertainment.
While high rollers and celebrities at the track’s Millionaire’s Row may still have the wherewithal to place large bets, overall gambling is expected to fall short of the $114.6 million wagered on last year’s Derby, won by Big Brown, said Tony Sinisi, an oddsmaker at Las Vegas Sports Consultants, which advises Nevada sports books on gambling lines. That was a 3.3 percent drop from the record $118.4 million staked in 2006, when Barbaro won.
Dunkirk and Pioneerof the Nile are co-second choices at 4- 1, followed by Friesan Fire at 5-1 during tomorrow’s Derby.
“Off of what we’ve seen with the Super Bowl and some other events like March Madness, we expect wagering to be down in the 20 to 30 percent range,” Sinisi said. “There are fewer disposable betting dollars.”
Triple Crown
The Derby is the first leg of the Triple Crown, which also comprises the Preakness Stakes in Baltimore on May 16 and the Belmont Stakes in New York on June 6.
The recession that started in December 2007 means some event organizers are catering to smaller groups. QuintEvents, whose 1,600 Kentucky Derby packages cost from $249 to $10,999, is dealing with corporate clients who are bringing two to four guests instead of as many as 250.
For some, not even the worst recession in at least 50 years will keep them away from the Kentucky Derby.
“Individuals who can afford it are saying, ‘bad economy be damned, I’m going to make this happen this year,’” Dave Schroeder, managing partner of QuintEvents, said in a telephone interview from the company’s headquarters in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Derby Hats
Those making the trip still plan to look their best by wearing a traditional Kentucky Derby hat. Two weeks before Derby Day, milliner Larry Olliges found he’d been too conservative with his orders for feathers, silk flowers and netting. The president of Dee’s Craft Inc. in Louisville had to “scramble” to get additional supplies.
“We’re going through 11 pounds of feathers valued at more than $50,000 retail, 3,000 yards of netting and ribbon, I couldn’t even tell you,” Olliges said in an interview. “Sales are up by about 20 percent for the month.”
Olliges and his staff will create 1,500 custom hats, in addition to those he’ll sell off-the-shelf, at an average price of $250.
“The Derby is still a huge fashion event,” he said.
Crystal Hats
Luke Song said sales of his chapeaus have doubled this year since Aretha Franklin brought his work to prominence at the inauguration of President Barack Obama. Among his offerings is a hat with Swarovski crystals for as much as $695.
“Kentucky Derby hat sales are up this year,” the owner of Mr. Song Millinery said in an e-mail from his Detroit showroom. “Despite the recession, the interest in hats is up tremendously.”
This year, not even expensive hats will be able to cover up the most challenging economic environment in at least a half century. The U.S. economy, the world’s largest, has shrunk 3.3 percent since peaking in last year’s second quarter, making this the second-worst recession since the Great Depression.
To contact the reporter on this story: Nancy Kercheval in Washington at nkercheval@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: May 1, 2009 00:01 EDT
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<< <i>Mud is a great equlaizer...good day to snag a longshot...I like Chocolate Candy and Hold Me Back with Friesan Fire... >>
Look for those horses whose mother was a mudder
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<< <i>Mud is a great equlaizer...good day to snag a longshot...I like Chocolate Candy and Hold Me Back with Friesan Fire... >>
Look for those horses whose mother was a mudder
Or father was a mudder?
Look for those horses whose mother was a mudder >>
Or father was a mudder?
In Brooklyn, they'd think you were talking about a transvestite with that last sentence, Steve, LOL...
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<< <i>< Mud is a great equlaizer...good day to snag a longshot...I like Chocolate Candy and Hold Me Back with Friesan Fire... >>
Look for those horses whose mother was a mudder >>
Or father was a mudder?
In Brooklyn, they'd think you were talking about a transvestite with that last sentence, Steve, LOL... >>
Yea, but not at Belmont Park or Aqueduct. LOL
<< <i>Derby is Upset Special Day...I'm looking to repeat my 3.5K trifecta win from '08, LOL!! >>
Hey, if ya catch a nice big tri for say 50K or so, how about sharing it a little bit and PayPal us regulars here 10 bucks or so - I know I could use the money.
I Want Revenge is scratched - ankle.
<< <i>Mud is a great equlaizer...good day to snag a longshot...I like Chocolate Candy and Hold Me Back with Friesan Fire... >>
<<<<< good day to snag a longshot >>>>>
You called it right with a longshot.
<<<<< good day to snag a longshot >>>>>
You called it right with a longshot.
Unfortunately, I picked the wrong one, though. Today's triple makes my $3,600 hit from last year look like a pittance, LOL..
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<< <i><< Mud is a great equlaizer...good day to snag a longshot...I like Chocolate Candy and Hold Me Back with Friesan Fire... >>
<<<<< good day to snag a longshot >>>>>
You called it right with a longshot.
Unfortunately, I picked the wrong one, though. Today's triple makes my $3,600 hit from last year look like a pittance, LOL.. >>
Ya shoulda consulted Perry.
You called it right with a longshot.
Unfortunately, I picked the wrong one, though. Today's triple makes my $3,600 hit from last year look like a pittance, LOL.. >>
Ya shoulda consulted Perry.
I can't complain...winning 3,600 last year on a $2 bet put me way into the black for years to come...I revoked all my on-line betting accounts and just go to OTB for the big stakes races now...on line accounts are way to insidious for my taste..
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<< <i><<< good day to snag a longshot >>>>>
You called it right with a longshot.
Unfortunately, I picked the wrong one, though. Today's triple makes my $3,600 hit from last year look like a pittance, LOL.. >>
Ya shoulda consulted Perry.
I can't complain...winning 3,600 last year on a $2 bet put me way into the black for years to come...I revoked all my on-line betting accounts and just go to OTB for the big stakes races now...on line accounts are way to insidious for my taste.. >>
Yes, $3,600 is a nice hit - probably equal to about a years paycheck for you.
A couple hundred more, and I could afford to sit behind home plate at Yankee Stadium, LOL!!! Maybe even get a hot dog and a beer!
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does he have enough for the preakness???
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i love that ticket, is that yours???
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<< <i>oh i forgot
i love that ticket, is that yours??? >>
Was given to me by a sales rep working for the company, Globe Ticket, that printed the tickets. Notice it doesn't have any seat information...it was an overrun that the sales reps gave out as samples, and that was quite a nice sample to give out because Secretariat was a very popular horse. I would have loved to have also had the Belmont ticket but he didn't have any, but of course I was quite appreciative to be given this one.
<< <i>what a powerful move that horse put on the field!!!
does he have enough for the preakness??? >>
He'll go off about 4 to 1 in the Preakness, and finish around third or fourth, maybe worse.
I'd say this guy has gotten pretty far with only a 6th grade education!
Go get 'em Mr. Borel!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
T222's PSA 1 or better
<< <i>Calvin has to be one of the hardest working athletes in sports! You don't see too many athletes "who have made it" working as hard as this guy does. Could you see Manny, A-Rod or _________________ (fill in the blank with any of 100 top athletes) helping the clubhouse guys wash their uniforms or helping the grounds crew with the field?
I'd say this guy has gotten pretty far with only a 6th grade education!
Go get 'em Mr. Borel! >>
How about one of the gutsiest as well - Borel makes it look easy on TV but there's not many jockeys these days who would go through small openings like that, especially on the rail, and I've watched a lot of horse races, a lot, and maybe only Angel Cordero comes to mind with jockey heart equivalent to Calvin Borel.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
That might be the first time I've heard of a jockey called an athlete.
I do agree with your premise though. Great ride by Calvin.
<< <i>Steve ... hard to believe that this week marks the 17th anniversary of Angel's retirement. I remember back in the day (when I, like you, unfortunately played the ponies every day ... lol) when Angel and Jorge Valasquez were THE jocks at Belmont and Aqueduct. Great watching those guys ride! >>
Both great jockeys, and I'm too young to know Shoemaker or Arcaro, but the best jockey I ever saw, and to me it's not that close, was Pat Day - He used to sometimes if not often have rides that would astonish me, and I'm not easy to astonish - LOL. Pat's rides were like works of art, and often, as he would do just the right thing at the right time on such a consistent basis, and make it look easy. Naturally he got to ride the best horses and that's part of it, but the jockey still has to know what to do with the horse, and Pat just seemed to always know what to do.