Home Sports Talk

Eagles trade away a 1st round, 4th round and a 2010 pick for...

lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
LT Jason Peters! Borrowing a page from Jerry Jone's book of stupidity. I love it!

Way to go Eagles!

Hi Steve image

Comments

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really? I guess teams are shying away from 1st round picks?

    Oh and HI MATT image
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭
    They have two firsts this year. Look at their O line for next year. Pretty impressive -

    "A club source confirmed that the Eagles have acquired Pro Bowl offensive tackle Jason Peters from the Buffalo Bills in exchange for the second of their two first-round picks (28th overall), a fourth-round pick and an undisclosed pick in next year’s draft."

    No one is as stupid as the Incubus of Dallas.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    No one is as stupid as the Incubus of Dallas. >>




    I can't argue with that.

    Even though the Eagles have 2 first round picks, trading away one of them along with a 4th round and a 2010 pick seems pretty steep for an o lineman.


    Hi Paul image
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Sounds to me like an excellent deal for the Eagles. Mowerman I think you swung and missed on this one, especially comparing it to the idiotic moves by JJ.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>LT Jason Peters! Borrowing a page from Jerry Jone's book of stupidity. I love it!

    Way to go Eagles!

    Hi Steve image >>



    Hi Matt image

    I don't disagree with ya here. Frankly, I don't like when any team gets rid of a left tackle at almost any price - I'll have to read more about the guy. But too often these "guys po'd about their contracts" too many times seem to underperform when going to a new team...and an "underperforning" left tackle, arguably the second most important position on the football field, can be disastrous.

    I guess Reid must have little confidence in what the Eagles now have after losing Tra Thomas...or maybe Reid just loves the guy? I guess we'll see. If Peters can do the job as expected for the steep price, I would have to think the Eagles would be favorites to win the NFC this upcoming season.
  • MphilkingMphilking Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    I think this trade is worth the risk. You never know what you are getting with pick #28 and the 4th. Peters didn't play as well last year but has been a Pro Bowler for two years. I think it's worth the risk for a possible stud at Left Tackle.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Professional career

    Buffalo Bills
    Peters was picked up by the Buffalo Bills as an undrafted rookie free agent in April 2004. He was cut then re-signed to the Bills' practice squad. He was signed to the active roster on November 12, 2004.[1] Peters made his mark on special teams as a feared wedge buster on kickoffs and as a blocking tight end, while beginning to learn to play offensive tackle under the tutelage of offensive line coach Jim McNally.

    In 2007, Peters beat out former Texas star Mike Williams for starting right tackle on the Bills. Peters was rewarded for his play, signing a five-year, $15 million contract extension with the Bills in the offseason.

    In 2008, Peters began the season entrenched as the starting right tackle. After Week 7, the Bills reshuffled their offensive line to better protect quarterback J. P. Losman. Peters was moved to left tackle, replacing Mike Gandy who moved inside to left guard.

    After the 2006 season, Sports Illustrated 's Paul Zimmerman debated selecting Peters to his All-Pro team. "I was rooting for the Bills' Jason Peters, whom I would have loved to pick, but he isn't there yet. Very athletic, but not enough of a roughneck." [2] Peters allowed only two sacks in that season and was not called for a holding penalty. [3]

    In 2007, Peters saw his best years as a pro, to date, and was selected to start at left tackle on the AFC Pro-Bowl team. It came after an overall dominating season, and was very little surprise to many around the league. As offensive line coach Jim McNally put it, "His ability is limitless." He injured his groin in a game against the New York Giants, and was unable to attend the Pro Bowl game. He was the first Bills offensive lineman to make the Pro Bowl since Ruben Brown in 2003. Joe Thomas was selected to replace him in the Pro Bowl. [1]

    Peters has been unhappy with his contract, and did not report to any of the Bills 2008 offseason workouts including the teams' mandatory minicamps. Head Coach Dick Jauron has said that he will be fined and will even be taken out of the lineup if he doesn't show.

    "I thought Jason would be at our mandatory minicamp, but that’s a decision he’s made and he’ll be fined,” Jauron said. “I wish he was here, obviously. But also on the flip side of it, for me, I have lots of other things going on. The guys that are here are working really hard, so we’ll work with those guys.”

    Fueling Peters' angst is that he is only the third-highest paid offensive lineman on the team despite being the Bills' only Pro Bowl blocker. Before the 2007 season, Buffalo gave two sizable contracts to free agent offensive linemen. Left guard Derrick Dockery was lured away from the Washington Redskins with a 7-year, $49 million contract with $18 million signing bonus, the third largest in NFL history at his position. Right tackle Langston Walker came in from the Oakland Raiders, signing a 5-year, $25 million contarct with a $10 million bonus. When comparing Peters to players on other teams, the Seattle Seahawks' left tackle, Walter Jones, the NFC's starting left tackle in last year's Pro Bowl, is under a contract signed in 2005 for $50 million over seven years. However, it should be noted that Jones was a five time pro bowl selection prior to signing his 2005 contract while Peters has been selected to only one pro bowl.

    Peters reportedly wants a contract between $8 million and $11.5 million per season in a contract extension. [4] According to ESPN.com, Jason Peters is the 2nd highest rated left tackle in the video game Madden 2009 with a 97 rating (Joe Thomas is 1st). Peters was rated an 87 in the 2008 version.

    On July 25, 2008, the NFL Network's Adam Schefter reported Jason Peters would not report to the Bills' training camp at Saint John Fisher College in Pittsford, N.Y. Schefter also said Peters was willing to sit out the entire season to get a new and improved contract. [5]

    On August 20, 2008, training camp for the Bills came to an end with Peters being absent for the whole camp and all of the preseason games. On August 21, 2008, the Bills signed rookie tackle Dustin Dickinson to help Langston Walker fill the void. On September 5, 2008, Jason Peters ended his holdout and returned to the Buffalo Bills. Peters was fined over $560,000 for missing all of training camp, but if he had missed a regular season game, he would have been fined $191,000 for each game he missed.

    Jason was selected as the starting left tackle in the Pro Bowl and was a Second-team All-Pro although his 2008 season was subpar and some thought the Pro Bowl selection was dubious.[6] In 2006 he allowed only two sacks and allowed six sacks in 2007[7] In 2008 Peters allowed 11½ sacks—tied for worst in the NFL among starting left tackles. [8]

    Philadelphia Eagles
    Peters has been unhappy with his contract and hasn’t been attending the Bills’ offseason activities after staging a holdout last summer at training camp. Due to the dispute with the Bills they went ahead and traded the unhappy Pro Bowler to the Eagles on April 17, 2009. The Eagles acquired Peters from the Bills for the 28th overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft which was acquired from Carolina in 2008. (They still have their own 21st overall pick) The Eagles also sent a fourth-round pick this year and a late conditional pick in the 2010 draft. According to ESPN.com, the deal may not be officially announced until Sunday the 19th because Philadelphia wants to have a contract extension in place first. [9]

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think this trade is worth the risk. You never know what you are getting with pick #28 and the 4th. Peters didn't play as well last year but has been a Pro Bowler for two years. I think it's worth the risk for a possible stud at Left Tackle. >>



    I gotta agree with this basic assessment. It's not a mortal lock cinch that this guy will be a stud, but Andy Reid always believes he can "coach players up" through various ways. Perhaps on film the Eagles coaches saw ways they could improve his technique to reduce that 2008 sacks allowed. And the guy is only 27 years old which is young for a left tackle.

    It'll be an interesting camp to see how this guy does.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I think this trade is worth the risk. You never know what you are getting with pick #28 and the 4th. Peters didn't play as well last year but has been a Pro Bowler for two years. I think it's worth the risk for a possible stud at Left Tackle. >>



    I gotta agree with this basic assessment. It's not a mortal lock cinch that this guy will be a stud, but Andy Reid always believes he can "coach players up" through various ways. Perhaps on film the Eagles coaches saw ways they could improve his technique to reduce that 2008 sacks allowed. And the guy is only 27 years old which is young for a left tackle.

    It'll be an interesting camp to see how this guy does. >>




    Bah Humbug! It's a terrible deal. Andy Reid is still fat, Donovan McNabb is still Donovan McNadd and your team is old.

    It's gonna be a cold winter in the city of brotherly love Mr Beaks. I can feel it!

    image
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Eagles could have 32 first round picks and still suck.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I think this trade is worth the risk. You never know what you are getting with pick #28 and the 4th. Peters didn't play as well last year but has been a Pro Bowler for two years. I think it's worth the risk for a possible stud at Left Tackle. >>



    I gotta agree with this basic assessment. It's not a mortal lock cinch that this guy will be a stud, but Andy Reid always believes he can "coach players up" through various ways. Perhaps on film the Eagles coaches saw ways they could improve his technique to reduce that 2008 sacks allowed. And the guy is only 27 years old which is young for a left tackle.

    It'll be an interesting camp to see how this guy does. >>




    Bah Humbug! It's a terrible deal. Andy Reid is still fat, Donovan McNabb is still Donovan McNadd and your team is old.

    It's gonna be a cold winter in the city of brotherly love Mr Beaks. I can feel it!

    image >>



    Maybe Reid just wanted to take away the Bills left tackle, so that the Bills quarterback won't have time to make many completions to stinkin' Terrell Owens, who no doubt Andy Reid can't stand, so that TO gets mad and has more entertaining temper tantrums this season, and Reid can have a good hearty laugh over it - that could be the primary reason behind this whole thing.


  • << <i>No one is as stupid as the Incubus of Dallas. >>




    He's got 3 Super Bowl Championships. Eagles ownership and Front office have produced how many?

    Sure pays to be stupid
  • CrimsonTiderCrimsonTider Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭
    Good news for me!!!!!!!!!!! In my fantasy football league (16 teams), we draft the weekend after the Super Bowl. I have B. Westbrooks, so any move that helps his O-line this year is good for me.

    I kind of got lucky, I went after Wstbrooks and B Jacobs. I also got their back ups, Ward and Buckhalter. Both of whom are now with different teams and will have expanded roles with those teams, which increases their fantasy value. I also snagged Cassell in hopes he would be traded.
    collecting Dale Murphy and OPC
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    when I read about the trade yesterday, I assumed the Eagles were willing to make Peters happy with a good contract. If that's the case, the Eagles did well for themselves. He's only 27 years old, so Phila should be able to get a few good years out of him.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>when I read about the trade yesterday, I assumed the Eagles were willing to make Peters happy with a good contract. If that's the case, the Eagles did well for themselves. He's only 27 years old, so Phila should be able to get a few good years out of him. >>




    I think your assumption has to be correct.

    Eagles have a ton of room under the cap - they manage the salary cap as good if not better than any other NFL team.
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    What sport are we talking about? image
Sign In or Register to comment.