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Anybody know anything about 1970's Wacky Packages???

Morning,
Have a question for you all. I recently picked up a used lot of about 80 Wacky Packages from the 3rd series to the 8th series off of E-bay. About Mid Grade, from my research on the Wacky website, mostly commons. I split them up into lots and sold them at auction, mostly to the same guy. So he gets them amd then e-mails me he wants his money back because most of them are conterfiet because they don't have the copyright. So I of course said no problem and will refund. Here are my questions.

1. Are their such things as conterfiets of these?
2. If somebody was to take the time and money to conterfiet these, why would they do it using worthless commons that are retailed at .20-.30 cents each? Why not the Rarer ones at $2-$10 each?
3. Why would these conterfiets be in mid grade condition, lowering their value even more? Why not pristine condition?
4. Is there another explanation as to why some don't have copyrights?
5. How easy/difficult would it be to conterfiet these?
6. Why not just conterfiet them with the copyright if you were going to conterfiet them?
7. Why, Why, Why?????

Thanks for your help
Neil
Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!

Comments

  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    didn't Topps re-issue many of the originals in a set, i think around 1985? it's a guess, but i do recall having a box full of these things, but the paper stock is different, could be that......just an honest mistake, then.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Neil

    The buyer is an idiot. Those things come both ways.

    Many items that Topps have done can be found with copyright and without.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    SERIES 16 Wacky Packages 16th Series - 30 Titles & Puzzle
    Hard to Find Titles Scoot (without copyright)
    Common Titles
    Arise Cream
    Bleed's Candy
    Clubbed Canadian
    Copperbone


    A simple google will answer his questions.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Digging a lil deeper (i'm no wacky expert) I see that of the first 5 series only the one mentioned above
    (scoot) comes with no copyright.

    Maybe an email to the expert will answer your questions.


    Rusty@LostWackys.com


    Try that Neil.

    However with that said, I still believe that Topps has in the past printed items with and without copyright.


    I doubt very much that wacky's were counterfeited but then again who knows.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ya gotta be careful out there of counterfeits of 20 cent Wacky packages and million dollar scratch-off lottery tickets. image


  • << <i>Ya gotta be careful out there of counterfeits of 20 cent Wacky packages and million dollar scratch-off lottery tickets. image >>




    I see the resident mouth has spoken again.
  • Good day,
    Thanks guy's.
    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Maybe this site can help??

    LINK
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,366 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Ya gotta be careful out there of counterfeits of 20 cent Wacky packages and million dollar scratch-off lottery tickets. image >>




    I see the resident mouth has spoken again. >>



    Speaking of "resident mouth"...What Ping, no profanity this time? image

    And I'll be sure to "mouth" again, especially against scammers and weasels.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,366 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>

    << <i>Ya gotta be careful out there of counterfeits of 20 cent Wacky packages and million dollar scratch-off lottery tickets. image >>




    I see the resident mouth has spoken again. >>



    Speaking of "resident mouth"...What Ping, no profanity this time? image

    And I'll be sure to "mouth" again, especially against scammers and weasels. >>



    Come on Ping...let's hear some curse words and insults...you can do it. LOL
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,366 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Ya gotta be careful out there of counterfeits of 20 cent Wacky packages and million dollar scratch-off lottery tickets. image >>




    I see the resident mouth has spoken again. >>



    Speaking of "resident mouth"...What Ping, no profanity this time? image

    And I'll be sure to "mouth" again, especially against scammers and weasels. >>



    Come on Ping...let's hear some curse words and insults...you can do it. LOL >>




    Come on Ping...we ain't got all day.....
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,366 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>Ya gotta be careful out there of counterfeits of 20 cent Wacky packages and million dollar scratch-off lottery tickets. image >>




    I see the resident mouth has spoken again. >>



    Speaking of "resident mouth"...What Ping, no profanity this time? image

    And I'll be sure to "mouth" again, especially against scammers and weasels. >>



    Come on Ping...let's hear some curse words and insults...you can do it. LOL >>




    Come on Ping...we ain't got all day..... >>



    Here ya go Ping - I'll make it easy for ya...

    Online poker is a sucker's game.

    now...........
  • ken61ken61 Posts: 55 ✭✭
    Neil - there were several reprints or "reissues" of the Topps Wacky Packs that originally ran from 1973 to 1975. My guess is your questions relate to one of these.

    1982 Topps Album Series - this issue included old stickers along with new and reworked ones. Stickers have no copyright on the front, just a number.

    1979/80 Topps Reissue - stickers have number on front, along with copyright.

    1974/75 Wonder Bread - stickers have copyright on front, but in some cases (though not all) it is different from original run.
  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    It just seems like if someone was going to counterfeit something in the first place, they would also counterfeit the copyright symbol. I think he just had buyer's remorse.
    I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy!
    Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for that info Ken.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Yeah whatever happened with that lottery tix? Was it a scam?

    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>Yeah whatever happened with that lottery tix? Was it a scam?

    Steve >>



    Well if it was a scam, don't quite see the point. The guy spent $4-5 K Friday cleaning out the two local liquor stores, spent another few thousand at the grocery store and then threw the Biggest party that my little town of 500-1000 has ever seen. So who did he scam giving away all that Beer and Food? Don't quite get it??
    Neil

    Thanks for the info on the Wackys ken61, but I don't think these are any of those, No Numbers or Copyrights. I'll Re-scan tham when I get them back.
    Thanks
    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Neil I was simply asking a question.

    Nevermind.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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