let's see some copper that has been treated with blue ribbon

darktone

It used to be pretty common to use it and I see many copper coins posted that have obviously been treated with it but I don't think the owners are aware of it. Here are a few of mine.

darktone

These were treated about 15 years ago.

AskRaq

I am assuming that Blue Ribbon is a type of cleaner? Is it a preservative too? Haven't seen it before, was wondering if it shows on the surface of the coin, or just in the fact that the devices are all debris free?

coinsarefun

Don't know if it was treated with blue ribbon but................its blue



Stefanie

lathmach

Blue Ribbon is the best thing that ever happened to old copper

Ray

darktone

Blue Ribbon

braddick

Is Blue Ribbon the same thing as MS70 Cleaner?

robec

It is my understanding that Blue Ribbon doesn't turn copper blue.

OchoReales

<< <i>Is Blue Ribbon the same thing as MS70 Cleaner? >>



No. Blue Ribbon is applied to copper AFTER the MS 70. 70 removes the debris, turning the copper various shades of blue/purple, while the Blue Ribbon restores the color back to it's previous state while protecting the surfaces.

Gary

AskRaq

From the description: " As an oil-based lubricant, it leaves a film behind to protect the coin."

Would this cause a coin to get BB or Genuine holdered?

droopyd

<< <i>From the description: " As an oil-based lubricant, it leaves a film behind to protect the coin."

Would this cause a coin to get BB or Genuine holdered? >>



My understanding is that if it's detectable, it will be sufficient cause to BB the coin. Even though "Blue Ribbon restores the color back to it's previous state," a trained eye will in most cases be able to discern that the surfaces are not 100% original.

coindeuce

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<< <i>From the description: " As an oil-based lubricant, it leaves a film behind to protect the coin."

Would this cause a coin to get BB or Genuine holdered? >>



My understanding is that if it's detectable, it will be sufficient cause to BB the coin. Even though "Blue Ribbon restores the color back to it's previous state," a trained eye will in most cases be able to discern that the surfaces are not 100% original. >>



The majority of copper purists would abhor the thought of submitting their coins to a TPG. The use of Blue Ribbon or Care is considered by purists to be more integral to the preservation of their coins than a plastic capsule with an opinion affixed to it.

tmot99

<< <i>Is Blue Ribbon the same thing as MS70 Cleaner? >>



not even close. BR is a solvent just like acetone is a solvent and does not affect copper surfaces. BR has an oil base though that can protect the surfaces of copper, but it can leave a sheen. I prefer to use BR to remove crud and PVC on copper, then rinse it away with acetone. You would not know any of my copper has been treated.

keets

i confess to buying a bottle several years ago, i think in 2002 or whenever the ANA was in Baltimore, although i've never used it. i figured that since it isn't available i better get it just in case. another product i'm curious about is "Deller's Darkener" for restoring the color to copper. how effective is that, has anyone ever used it??

Billet7

I believe this one has. I have talked to a couple of copper guys who think so too.

DieClash

<< <i>i confess to buying a bottle several years ago, i think in 2002 or whenever the ANA was in Baltimore, although i've never used it. i figured that since it isn't available i better get it just in case. another product i'm curious about is "Deller's Darkener" for restoring the color to copper. how effective is that, has anyone ever used it?? >>



It would appear that WizardCoinSupply has Blue Ribbon Conditioner for sale.

AnkurJ

I have a few large cents that are corroded, and almost every EAC'r that you talk to recommends using blue ribbon to prevent further corrosion. Also, most EAC'rs dont care if a coin is slabbed, so body bags really don't matter.

MikeInFL

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<< <i>Is Blue Ribbon the same thing as MS70 Cleaner? >>



No. Blue Ribbon is applied to copper AFTER the MS 70. 70 removes the debris, turning the copper various shades of blue/purple, while the Blue Ribbon restores the color back to it's previous state while protecting the surfaces.

Gary >>



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As I'm sure you know, it is also applied to coins independently of MS70. Also, in my experience it doesn't completely get rid of the blue color, but it does subdue it to a large extent.

Respectfully...Mike

p.s. I'll try and find a good example of a blue-ribbon piece of copper and post it to this thread.

DoctorPaper

Blue ribbon contains a solvent for cleaning circulated copper and an oil for protecting copper surfaces. If you want to submit a treated coin to a TPG, you can completely remove it with an acetone rinse and never know it had been there, except for the crud it removed. I've never had problems with it on brown copper. That said, my belief is that it shouldn't be used on red or red brown copper coins. In my experience it does cause some color change on those types of coins, and not for the good. It seems to dull reds and make them more brownish, something you don't really want.

WaterSport

OK folks, let’s get real, both are used to hide problems on coins and attempt to get them into plastic preferably at higher grades do to better eye appeal. I always give my cents a soak in acetone to remove the crud between the letters. This includes those cents in other TPG holders. That @#$%^&amp;* Dellers Darkerner crap always turns the Qtip brown because of the stuff left on the coin.

WS

darktone

Just thought some might like to see these pics.

ksteelheader

<< <i>Don't know if it was treated with blue ribbon but................its blue



Stefanie




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