WHY DOESN'T PSA HAVE A ALL TIME PIRATES REGISTRY SET?

BPorter26

I'm very curious why PSA has not approved a ALL-TIME PIRATES Registry set. My only guess is the Honus Wagner being a card that is to hard to find and to expensive. Do you think PSA would substitute a reprint of that card in it's place? I really would like to do a set like this, since I'm a huge Pirate fan. Any feedback would be appreciative.

lsutigers1973

Wagner too expensive. The rest of the Pirates history is limited to like 3 great players. In other words, they suck.

Good luck to them this season. Maybe they can avoid losing 100 games.

BPorter26

Come on, They have had a lot of great players. Recently none and they do suck 16 losing seasons and counting.

SOM

C'mon now! Pedro Alvarez will turn it all around.

BPorter26

I agree the corner will be turned soon along with Alvarez they have McCutchen, Tabata and Walker to name a few.

mikeschmidt

I'm sure if you request an All-Time Pirates registry set with the cards you want in it, it will be live in 6-9 months.

scotgreb

Hey Tiger! Them's fightin' words . . .

PIRATES HALL OF FAMERS

Player Years played with Pirates

Jake Beckley 1888-1889, 1891-1896
Jim Bunning 1968-1969
*Max Carey 1910-1926
Jack Chesbro 1899-1902
*Fred Clarke 1900-1911, 1913-1915
*Roberto Clemente 1955-1972
Joe Cronin 1926-1927
Kiki Cuyler 1921-1927
Barney Dreyfuss 1900-1932
Pud Galvin 1887-1889, 1891-1892
Rich Gossage 1977
Hank Greenberg 1947
Burleigh Grimes 1916-1917, 1928-1929, 1934
Ned Hanlon 1889, 1891
Billy Herman 1947
Waite Hoyt 1933-1937
Joe Kelley 1892
George Kelly 1917
*Ralph Kiner 1946-1953
Chuck Klein 1939
Freddy Lindstrom 1933-1934
Al Lopez 1940-1946
Connie Mack 1891-1896
Heinie Manush 1938-1939
Rabbit Maranville 1921-1924
*Bill Mazeroski 1956-1972
*Willie Stargell 1962-1982
Casey Stengel 1918-1919
*Pie Traynor 1920-1937
Dazzy Vance 1915
*Arky Vaughan 1932-1941
Rube Waddell 1900-1901
*Honus Wagner 1900-1907
*Lloyd Waner 1927-1941, 1944-1945
*Paul Waner 1926-1940
Vic Willis 1906-1909

* Played more games with Pittsburgh than any other team.

Managers Years with Pirates

Fred Clarke 1900-1915
Frankie Frisch 1940-1946
Ned Hanlon 1889, 1891
Billy Herman 1947
Connie Mack 1894-1896
Bill McKechnie 1922-1926
Billy Southworth 1918-1920
Pie Traynor 1934-1939
Honus Wagner 1917

Clemaz

Well said scotgreb

lsutigers1973

If 3/4ths of your all time greatest retired before 1930, your team has sucked for along time. Plus, I see 4 MLB HOF'ers on that list that played a total of 1 season for the Pirates. Don't think that qualifies them for all time greatest Pirates.

scotgreb

Didn't say they all belonged -- just pointing out the rich history of a great franchise. Not to mention they played in the first World Series and have won more than most.

You could make the same case for franchises like the Cubs and Orioles (the first two that come to mind) -- but they too have a rich history and many all-time greats.

K

This is why there is no All Time Pirates set...

All Time Low...

GDM67

The bottom line is what mike wrote. Just ask for one and you'll get it...eventually.

There's no hard and fast rule that says you need to have all HOFers. Personally, I think any All Time Pirates set is probably incomplete without Dave Parker and Bob Friend. I would also probably want to have Van Slyke, Bonilla and Bonds, too. The early '90's teams shouldn't go unrecognized.

BPorter26

This is who I plan on putting on the list. LMK who else I might be leaving out. Thanks

1909 -T206 Honus Wagner (Reprint) Not sure what Wagner to use in the set.
1909 -T206 Fred Clarke
1933 -Goudey-Paul Waner
1933 -Goudey-Lloyd Waner
1933- Goudey -Pie Traynor
1933 -Goudey-Arky Vaughan
1948 -Bowman- Ralph Kiner
1948 -Leaf -Danny Murtaugh
1951 -Bowman -Veron Law
1952 -Topps -Dick Groat
1952 -Bowman -Bob Friend
1953 -Topps -Elroy Face
1955 -Topps -Roberto Clemente
1955 -Topps -Chuck Tanner
1957 -Topps -Bill Mazeroski
1962 -Topps -Dave Giusti
1963 -Topps -Willie Stargell
1965 -Topps -Steve Blass
1968 -Topps -Manny Sanguillen
1969 -Topps -Richie Hebner / Al Oliver
1971 -Topps -Bert Byleven
1974 -Topps -Dave Parker
1974 -Topps -Bill Madlock
1976 -Topps -John Candelaria
1976 -Topps -Kent Tekulve
1977 -Topps -Omar Moreno
1981 -Topps- Tony Pena
1982 -Topps -Johnny Ray
1984 -Donruss -Andy Van Slyke
1986 -Fleer Traded - Barry Bonds
1987 -Fleer -Bobby Bonilla
1987 -Donruss - Doug Drabek
1993 -Topps Stadium -Jason Kendall

Edit: Added more players

NickM

Do not use a reprint of Wagner. Use the first widely available card from his playing days. It would be one of the E cards (I'm not sure which one without checking).

The '32 U.S. Caramels might be a better choice than '33 Goudeys for the Waners.

Nick

Farmkidd

I agree, don't put a Wagner T206 reprint into an all-time Pirates Set. Pick another Wagner card as was recomended above if you like. You can always put a Wagner reprint in your collection as a place holder.

I keep this Wagner with my T206 set even though it is not a T206 nor a reprint. It is from the 2002 Topps 206 set. I consider it more of a "tribute" card instead of a reprint.

SOM

Maybe Bill Virdon?

And based on last night's game alone, Jack Wilson.

BPorter26

I thought about Bill Virdon, Which I probably will add.

Clemaz

How about Bob Skinner, John Smiley, Brian Giles and Jason Bay

NickM

Danny Murtaugh and Chuck Tanner would be logical to add.
Barney Dreyfuss (Pirates owner during the early part of the 20th century) needs to be part of the set too. There are a couple cards of him - I think the Tip Top Bread card is the accepted first card. Branch Rickey should be added as well. I don't have a handle on which card is right to add for him.

Nick

BPorter26

Clemaz, I think Skinner's and Smiley are good calls, but Giles never won in Pittsburgh and Bay even though he won ROY I'm yet sold he's a All-Time Pirate.

Nick I agree Murtaugh and Tanner need to be on this list.

Clemaz

<< <i>but Giles never won in Pittsburgh >>



True, but Kendall never won either. I am kind of biased towards Phil Garner as well.

SOM

Add my vote for Danny Murtaugh and Phil Garner!

Nick