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WHY DOESN'T PSA HAVE A ALL TIME PIRATES REGISTRY SET?

BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm very curious why PSA has not approved a ALL-TIME PIRATES Registry set. My only guess is the Honus Wagner being a card that is to hard to find and to expensive. Do you think PSA would substitute a reprint of that card in it's place? I really would like to do a set like this, since I'm a huge Pirate fan. Any feedback would be appreciative.
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL" - JACKIE MOON

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    lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    Wagner too expensive. The rest of the Pirates history is limited to like 3 great players. In other words, they suck. image

    Good luck to them this season. Maybe they can avoid losing 100 games.
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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Come on, They have had a lot of great players. Recently none and they do suck 16 losing seasons and counting.
    "EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL" - JACKIE MOON
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    SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    C'mon now! Pedro Alvarez will turn it all around.
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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree the corner will be turned soon along with Alvarez they have McCutchen, Tabata and Walker to name a few.
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    mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    I'm sure if you request an All-Time Pirates registry set with the cards you want in it, it will be live in 6-9 months.
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    scotgrebscotgreb Posts: 808 ✭✭✭
    Hey Tiger! Them's fightin' words . . .

    PIRATES HALL OF FAMERS

    Player Years played with Pirates

    Jake Beckley 1888-1889, 1891-1896
    Jim Bunning 1968-1969
    *Max Carey 1910-1926
    Jack Chesbro 1899-1902
    *Fred Clarke 1900-1911, 1913-1915
    *Roberto Clemente 1955-1972
    Joe Cronin 1926-1927
    Kiki Cuyler 1921-1927
    Barney Dreyfuss 1900-1932
    Pud Galvin 1887-1889, 1891-1892
    Rich Gossage 1977
    Hank Greenberg 1947
    Burleigh Grimes 1916-1917, 1928-1929, 1934
    Ned Hanlon 1889, 1891
    Billy Herman 1947
    Waite Hoyt 1933-1937
    Joe Kelley 1892
    George Kelly 1917
    *Ralph Kiner 1946-1953
    Chuck Klein 1939
    Freddy Lindstrom 1933-1934
    Al Lopez 1940-1946
    Connie Mack 1891-1896
    Heinie Manush 1938-1939
    Rabbit Maranville 1921-1924
    *Bill Mazeroski 1956-1972
    *Willie Stargell 1962-1982
    Casey Stengel 1918-1919
    *Pie Traynor 1920-1937
    Dazzy Vance 1915
    *Arky Vaughan 1932-1941
    Rube Waddell 1900-1901
    *Honus Wagner 1900-1907
    *Lloyd Waner 1927-1941, 1944-1945
    *Paul Waner 1926-1940
    Vic Willis 1906-1909

    * Played more games with Pittsburgh than any other team.

    Managers Years with Pirates

    Fred Clarke 1900-1915
    Frankie Frisch 1940-1946
    Ned Hanlon 1889, 1891
    Billy Herman 1947
    Connie Mack 1894-1896
    Bill McKechnie 1922-1926
    Billy Southworth 1918-1920
    Pie Traynor 1934-1939
    Honus Wagner 1917

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    ClemazClemaz Posts: 1,422
    Well said scotgreb
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    lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    If 3/4ths of your all time greatest retired before 1930, your team has sucked for along time. Plus, I see 4 MLB HOF'ers on that list that played a total of 1 season for the Pirates. Don't think that qualifies them for all time greatest Pirates.
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    scotgrebscotgreb Posts: 808 ✭✭✭
    Didn't say they all belonged -- just pointing out the rich history of a great franchise. Not to mention they played in the first World Series and have won more than most.

    You could make the same case for franchises like the Cubs and Orioles (the first two that come to mind) -- but they too have a rich history and many all-time greats.

    Focusing on baseball “playing years” HOFers. My HOF Set; https://psacard.com/psasetregistry/baseball/hall-fame-sets/hall-fame-players-managers-owners-executives-pioneers-commissioners-umpires/publishedset/77755

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    KK Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭
    This is why there is no All Time Pirates set...

    All Time Low...
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    GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭✭
    The bottom line is what mike wrote. Just ask for one and you'll get it...eventually.

    There's no hard and fast rule that says you need to have all HOFers. Personally, I think any All Time Pirates set is probably incomplete without Dave Parker and Bob Friend. I would also probably want to have Van Slyke, Bonilla and Bonds, too. The early '90's teams shouldn't go unrecognized.
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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is who I plan on putting on the list. LMK who else I might be leaving out. Thanks

    1909 -T206 Honus Wagner (Reprint) Not sure what Wagner to use in the set.
    1909 -T206 Fred Clarke
    1933 -Goudey-Paul Waner
    1933 -Goudey-Lloyd Waner
    1933- Goudey -Pie Traynor
    1933 -Goudey-Arky Vaughan
    1948 -Bowman- Ralph Kiner
    1948 -Leaf -Danny Murtaugh
    1951 -Bowman -Veron Law
    1952 -Topps -Dick Groat
    1952 -Bowman -Bob Friend
    1953 -Topps -Elroy Face
    1955 -Topps -Roberto Clemente
    1955 -Topps -Chuck Tanner
    1957 -Topps -Bill Mazeroski
    1962 -Topps -Dave Giusti
    1963 -Topps -Willie Stargell
    1965 -Topps -Steve Blass
    1968 -Topps -Manny Sanguillen
    1969 -Topps -Richie Hebner / Al Oliver
    1971 -Topps -Bert Byleven
    1974 -Topps -Dave Parker
    1974 -Topps -Bill Madlock
    1976 -Topps -John Candelaria
    1976 -Topps -Kent Tekulve
    1977 -Topps -Omar Moreno
    1981 -Topps- Tony Pena
    1982 -Topps -Johnny Ray
    1984 -Donruss -Andy Van Slyke
    1986 -Fleer Traded - Barry Bonds
    1987 -Fleer -Bobby Bonilla
    1987 -Donruss - Doug Drabek
    1993 -Topps Stadium -Jason Kendall

    Edit: Added more players


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    NickMNickM Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭
    Do not use a reprint of Wagner. Use the first widely available card from his playing days. It would be one of the E cards (I'm not sure which one without checking).

    The '32 U.S. Caramels might be a better choice than '33 Goudeys for the Waners.

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    FarmkiddFarmkidd Posts: 160
    I agree, don't put a Wagner T206 reprint into an all-time Pirates Set. Pick another Wagner card as was recomended above if you like. You can always put a Wagner reprint in your collection as a place holder.

    I keep this Wagner with my T206 set even though it is not a T206 nor a reprint. It is from the 2002 Topps 206 set. I consider it more of a "tribute" card instead of a reprint.

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    SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    Maybe Bill Virdon?

    And based on last night's game alone, Jack Wilson.

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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought about Bill Virdon, Which I probably will add.
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    ClemazClemaz Posts: 1,422
    How about Bob Skinner, John Smiley, Brian Giles and Jason Bay
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    NickMNickM Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭
    Danny Murtaugh and Chuck Tanner would be logical to add.
    Barney Dreyfuss (Pirates owner during the early part of the 20th century) needs to be part of the set too. There are a couple cards of him - I think the Tip Top Bread card is the accepted first card. Branch Rickey should be added as well. I don't have a handle on which card is right to add for him.

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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Clemaz, I think Skinner's and Smiley are good calls, but Giles never won in Pittsburgh and Bay even though he won ROY I'm yet sold he's a All-Time Pirate.

    Nick I agree Murtaugh and Tanner need to be on this list.
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    ClemazClemaz Posts: 1,422


    << <i>but Giles never won in Pittsburgh >>



    True, but Kendall never won either. I am kind of biased towards Phil Garner as well.image
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    SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    Add my vote for Danny Murtaugh and Phil Garner!

    Nick
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