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Ok has anyone tried cleaning coins with a laser that surgeons use.

I was in the Dr's office the other day, checking out possible skin cancer. And I noticed a laser machine, so...

Talking to the owner of the practice not having seen him in 30 years, also a little short story on how I knew him. We lined up against each other in High School and played football against each other.. He has a successful practice and coming from poverty he made it out.. Cudos to him..

Well I asked him about the laser that he uses for different procedures. He believes coins could be cleaned and not harmed.. He said he took off hard water stains off of chrome and glass, also cleaned sterling silver. He told me you must be careful or it can heat up and leave a darker than normal area..

So anyone else know of this practice on coins and if so does it leave a altered look?

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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    You can read about how a laser was used to clean some roman coins here.
  • phehpheh Posts: 1,588
    This was covered once here.

    And kudos to me for being pedantic.
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    There are also new hdtv's that use lasers that are supposed to use less electricity than lcd tv's.

    Maybe you can figure out a way to clean coins with your tv someday.
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>This was covered once here.

    And kudos to me for being pedantic. >>




    Thanks, a little back logging I would of found what I was looking for.image
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ok has anyone tried cleaning coins with a laser that surgeons use. >>



    Um, no.
  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    no, but i'm still saving my money to buy one of those laser LP players for my vinyl image then no more diamonds wearing down my grooves yo!!!
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oops!!!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why take the chance of damaging your coins with a laser when there are safer methods of cleaning your coins?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That article about lasering of ancient coins is interesting.

    Explore collections of lordmarcovan on CollecOnline, management, safe-keeping, sharing and valuation solution for art piece and collectibles.
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Medical lasers don't have enough power to work on coins. You'll need an industrial laser.
    However, none of my coins wear glasses any more. image
  • phehpheh Posts: 1,588
    I did a couple of hours reading on this last night. And while a lot of it looked "promising" (and I use that word cautiously) on the surface - I see no reason to believe it is truly viable at this time.

    In the end...

    Could you use a laser as a tool to alter the surfaces of a coin? Unequivocally, yes.
    Could you do so in a manner that would not be materially more damaging to a coin than current cleaning, restoration or tooling methodologies? High probability of success.
    Would it be financially rewarding for coin doctors to experiment with laser cleaning and tooling techniques at this time? Unequivocally, no.

    In the end the rearrangement of a metal surface either by conventional means or by laser requires a skilled artist at the end of whatever tool he uses. Meanwhile, the cleaning of contaminants from metal surfaces [coins] through the use of a laser is certainly viable but at this point seems to leave as many telltale signs of the surface alteration as conventional methods.

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    References of use...
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    Experimental study on the effect of wavelength and fluence in the laser cleaning of silvering in Late Roman coins
    E.Drakaki1, A. A.Serafetinides1, I. Zergioti1, C. Vlachou-Mogire2, N. Boukos
    Physics Department, National Technical University of Athens, Greece
    Numismatic Museum of Athens, Greece
    Institute of Materials Science, National Center for Scientific Research “Demokritos”, Greece
    http://www.promet.org.gr/Portals/0/ProceedingsPDF/CSSIM-PCC-03.pdf

    Advanced plasma treatment for cleaning and protecting precious metal artefacts
    S. Grassini, E. Angelini, R. d'Agostino, F. Palumbo and G.M. Ingo
    http://www.promet.org.gr/Portals/0/ProceedingsPDF/CSSIM-NC-04.pdf


    Regarding use for other applications which could yield similar results:


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    LASER TECHNIQUES FOR CONSERVATION OF ARTWORKS - Renzo Salimbeni
    http://epa.oszk.hu/00800/00846/00006/pdf/AM-2006-1-RS.pdf

    CONTROLLED LASER CLEANING OF PAINTED ARTWORKS - J.M. Teule, J.H. Scholten, O.F. van den Brink, R.M.A. Heeren
    http://www.art-innovation.nl/fckfiles/file/Downloads/Articles/1999/1999_controlled_laser_cleaning.pdf

    Laser removal of oxides and particles from copper surfaces for microelectronic fabrication - J. M. Lee and K. G. Watkins
    http://www.lasers.org.uk/paperstore/Cleaning1.pdf

    Laser polishing - T. Dobrev, D. T. Pham and S. S. Dimov
    http://www.cuimrc.cf.ac.uk/sites/www.cuimrc.cf.ac.uk/files/4M-9-Laser%20polishing08_02.pdf

    Controlled Laser Ablation of Polyimide Substrates - Peter Gordon, Richard Berenyi, Balint Balogh
    http://mycite.omikk.bme.hu/doc/15847.pdf
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220
    I image Pheh. If more people would spend the time on helping answering a question someone has, there would be less antics on here..image

    I will "Not" have my coins near any laser in the future..image
  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486
    Our laser here at the house is pretty well tied up.

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