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Broncos want two first round picks for Cutler

From Fanhouse:

At this point, the Denver Broncos really don't have a choice. There's no turning back, and there is probably not a good chance of there ever being a reconciliation. You can play the blame game all you want, but it won't change the reality.

Now that Denver has said they are going to explore trade prospects for Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler, it was just a matter of time before word leaked over Denver's demands.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports the Broncos want quite a price for a guy who doesn't seem to want to be in Denver anymore.

... the Broncos have informed all interested teams that they want at least two first-round picks for Cutler and getting a quarterback in exchange is not a necessity, Mortensen reports. A team source said it was possible Cutler could be traded as soon as Friday.
There's good news and bad news here.

The good news is that the Broncos might have a deal done by Friday. That puts an end to this thing much later than the last drama Bus Cook engineered.

The bad news? Well, Denver front office, I hate to break this to you. Someone should, though.

You don't have much of a chance of getting two first-round picks for Jay Cutler. The dude's damaged goods. Everyone on the planet who can access a television or a computer knows he doesn't want to play for Denver anymore, Not only does Denver not want him around, but they probably can't afford to keep him.

Even if you could sucker convince a team to give you one first-rounder for Cutler, no one is going to part with two. Yes, he has a big arm, is a good athlete, and is going to have some great seasons in the NFL. He's also going to have the potential to be a giant pain in the you-know-where when he doesn't get what he wants.

Perhaps the Broncos are banking on there being a bidding war for Cutler. He is, after all, a proven NFL quarterback, unlike anyone available in the draft. Plus, there's a chance the Redskins will be involved, and you know how often Dan Snyder gives up on getting something he wants.

Still, it's a price no sane NFL team would pay for someone who could cause them more trouble than he's worth.

Comments

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Depending on the team, might be say a 1 and a 4, probably a 2 and a 4...something like that. Denver is just being silly even starting out asking for two 1's.
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942
    Whoever gets Cutler I hope they have the Broncos on their schedule - in Denver that is. Can you imagine the reception he would get.....
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Denver is just being silly even starting out asking for two 1's. >>



    They might be asking so much for a reason- they really dont want him to go.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Might be like when the Red Sox put Manny on irrevocable waivers and got no takers... It put Manny in his place for a couple of years.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Might be like when the Red Sox put Manny on irrevocable waivers and got no takers... It put Manny in his place for a couple of years. >>



    Possibly, but IMO the fact that nobody took Manny was much more of a slap in the face than this would be for Cutler- 2 First Round picks is no joke.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bears? Wow.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Sounds like 2 #1's and a 3, Angelo and Smith are trying to save their jobs.
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Broncos should ask Cutler to change his name to Herschl Walker. Maybe they could them trade him and pick up 7 (or was it 8?) players/draft choices in return.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    da Bears haven't had a good quarterback in forever. Good move for Chicago. Of course, I don't know yet what they officially gave up...
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    According to the sun times and tribune two ones and a three, ones in 09 and 10 a 3 in 09. Bears get a 5th in this years draft.

    edited to add: and Orton
  • This ended WELL for Denver. This IS another Hershal Walker deal. The Bears will be improved greatly, but may also suffer in 4-5 years after giving away 2 first round draft picks. The Bears will win the division now. Minnesota needed to get this guy.
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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Angelo hasn't exactly used first round picks very well.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cutler going to Bears
    By John Clayton
    ESPN.com

    The Chicago Bears pulled the big upset Thursday afternoon by acquiring Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler, a source told ESPN.com.

    The Broncos confirmed the move.

    To acquire Cutler, the Bears had to give up quarterback Kyle Orton and first-round picks in 2009 and 2010, a source said.

    To complete the trade, the Broncos had to give back a third-round pick in 2009.

    The Bears beat out the Redskins, Buccaneers, Lions, Titans and other teams to get land the 25-year-old Pro Bowl quarterback.

    The Broncos had been asking for at least two first-round choices.

    Cutler asked to be traded when he found out first-year coach Josh McDaniels tried to acquire Matt Cassel in a trade with the Patriots.

    Cutler had not returned phone calls from the Broncos, according to the team, and had been staying away from the offseason program.

    John Clayton is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the worst, for the Bears, NFL trades I have ever seen...in my opinion.

    But only time will tell.
  • I doubt it Steve. The Bears have been a great team for years while using some pretty bad (proven) Qb's over this time. This should help them.


    Also if the Vikings get Vick (this is not an ongoing rumor its just something I hope happens), well then the Vikings take the Division. With Tjak or Sage, nope..
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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Your previous post is wrong, Denver got a third and gave up a fifth. Guess you haven't seen many trades then Steve or aware of Angelo's first round picks. Cedric Benson ring a bell? image Add Rex to his resume too.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Bears are a contender now. A very strong running game with a QB who can get the ball to his receivers, however if this doesnt pan out and Cutler was a product of Shanahans system the reprocussions from this will bury D'Bears.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Bears are a contender now. A very strong running game with a QB who can get the ball to his receivers, however if this doesnt pan out and Cutler was a product of Shanahans system the reprocussions from this will bury D'Bears. >>



    Bury the Bears, they were already headed to an early grave. With no one certain what will happen with the collecting bargaining issue looming ahead who the hell knows.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not saying the Bears shouldn't take a shot with Cutler, considering the drek they had at the position, but they gave up much too much - Much too Much.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i> but they gave up much too much - Much too Much. >>



    I agree Steve. By chance, does Jerry Jones own the Bears as well?
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> but they gave up much too much - Much too Much. >>



    I agree Steve. By chance, does Jerry Jones own the Bears as well? >>



    Matt - I think you can't stand Jerry Jones almost as much as me. image
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i> but they gave up much too much - Much too Much. >>



    I agree Steve. By chance, does Jerry Jones own the Bears as well? >>



    Matt - I think you can't stand Jerry Jones almost as much as me. image >>



    I sure do LOL
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i> but they gave up much too much - Much too Much. >>



    I agree Steve. By chance, does Jerry Jones own the Bears as well? >>



    Matt - I think you can't stand Jerry Jones almost as much as me. image >>



    I sure do LOL >>



    I know the feeling when ya root for a team but can't stand the owner - I've been there with some Philly team owners in the past.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i> but they gave up much too much - Much too Much. >>



    I agree Steve. By chance, does Jerry Jones own the Bears as well? >>



    Matt - I think you can't stand Jerry Jones almost as much as me. image >>



    I sure do LOL >>



    I know the feeling when ya root for a team but can't stand the owner - I've been there with some Philly team owners in the past. >>



    To this day i believe that eventually Buddy Ryan would have brought a Super Bowl winner to Philly if Norman Braman hadn't foolishly fired him for no good reason!
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