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pedigree - do you want someone else's name on your coins?

Personally I think it subtracts from the value if you are selling, but cool as heck if you are keeping them yourself. Can you "unpedigree" or "repedigree" coins, or would you have to break them out and resubmit them?

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  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    I'd prefer my coins not to have a pedigree listed on the slab. I'd probably sent it in and ask them to remove it from the slab. Who cares who owned a coin before you?
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I own a coin from a classic collection, I prefer to have it pedigreed. To me, the history of the coin is important.

  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    If you have an Eliasberg, Lee, or Samorajski take the pedigree. Otherwise you can get them reholdered.

    Greg Samorajski
  • Was Samorajski a "famous" collector? I've had two pieces now from those collections and neither had a pedigree. Was I missing something? image

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • If it is from a famous collection and a noteworthy coin I'd keep the pedigree, other wise I will submitt the set and have my name on it. I emailed David about 6 months ago and inquired about the pedigrees. I think it would be way cooler to punch in the coins cert number and the coins pedigree comes up.
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would still like an Eliasberg Liberty Nickel. But it would also be outside of my regular set. As for names of others, I would prefer to not to have anyones name on them. If I was to pedigree a set, I would hang onto it for some time. I still am not sure why some get their sets pedigreed and then go right out and sell it.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No Eliasberg or Norweb coins in my set yet, but I do have a Samorajski. And he has a Lord Marcovan. image

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  • I might like one from a famous, old collection. I think it is really cool how some folks are so expert in their area they know the history of a particular coin. It also might be neat to get one from you guys for yucks image

    My wife wants our name on the Jeffs. It was part of the whole deal. I can spend our money this way, but I have to get our name in the book and on the coins. I keep holding off thinking I might be able to upgrade something. Pretty soon though I'm going to have to send them in.
  • SpoolySpooly Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭
    I have some labute and dpoole pedigreed coins........ I love them! I know and repect these guys as good people and great collectors. I wouldn't want pedigreed coin from someone I didn't know unless it someone famous like Bass or Eliasberg.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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  • khaysekhayse Posts: 1,336
    I think it is very cool to have a coin with a pedigree on it.

    Especially if you know the person and especially if it is from
    a nice collection.

    I'm working right now to pick out which of the Wm Walser
    half dollars I want to add to my collection image

    -Keith H
  • khaysekhayse Posts: 1,336
    > Personally I think it subtracts from the value if you are selling
    p.s. I don't see how it could subtract more than $5 (the cost of
    reholdering) from the value of the coin image
  • If I acquired a pedigreed coin and it was part of a set that I was able to get pedigreed myself, I would inquire if they could pedigree it in my name and memorialize the previous pedigree (e.g., Mansco Perry, ex: Samorajski).
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  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,814 ✭✭✭
    I just bought a Morgan from Mike Casper with his name on it. Common date Morgan MS67 but special to me. I bought it just to have a Pedigreed coin. Wouldn't want to change it.

    Mike
  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    Keith et all:

    Those Samorajski pedigeed pieces are almost impossible to find, and when found trade at a hefty premium!! At the end of the day, most pedigrees are really for the collector who wants to see his or her name on the holder.

    Greg
  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474
    Braddick
    I've debated this myself.Being the owner of the first Early Date Lincoln Proof to receive the Cameo designation makes it even tougher.I'd like to be remembered for that.I just don't know.image
    Don
    Registry 1909-1958 Proof Lincolns
  • In a word, Yes. I would love to have some of the JLee set of Morgans or the Tour or the Casper as many of these are Finest Known or tied for.

    Ritchie
    What will kill a thread faster than a reply from Ritchie?
  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like a dog licking his genitals, I pedigreed my Washington and Franklin sets just because I COULD. Still don't know if it was a smart thing to do.

    Doesn't seem like it hurt Lazeroo or Walser in their recent sales; apparently having Laz' and Bill's names on those slabs didn't bother many buyers...
  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    If.. hypothetically speaking.. I were to buy the Eliasberg 1913 Liberty nickel and then tell PCGS that I want my own name put on the label instead of Eliasberg's or else I would remove it from a PCGS slab altogether, do you think they'd do it?
    Matt
  • I would rather not have a name on the slab + I can get a coin cheaper & better quality without a name image


    Then just get my own name put on it image
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I own a few of the Norweb pedigreed coins slabbeds by PCGS. Keep in mind that he and his wife Emma Mae was very special to me as they taught me a lot about coin collecting back in the early 1970's. The name is indeed very special to me. They were my mentors.

    The Norwebs would be displeased to know that today many of their coins have their names on them as they were very private people. However, in honoring those such as the Norwebs who collected coins before us and to create a time line for the coin as to where it has been, the establishment of a pedigreed name on the holder adds to its aura of authenticity and adds a lot of history to the coin besides just when it was minted and how well preserved it is.

    I too would feel funny about having my name on a coin holder as well but then when I am dead, will I feel differently? I don't want to know the answer to that just yet!

    ---------oreville
    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • Its an ego rush we would all do it in a heart beat, what better way to keep your name alive? If your coins cant carry the name why bother, if thet CAN carry the name all the better.....
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    Personaly, I would love to have a pedigree in my set, as has been said allready, the history of a coin intregues me. However, when it is time to pedigree mine, if I did not have a replacement, I would have to change it to my pedigree.

    Ray
  • raycycaraycyca Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭
    Having a pedigreed coin provides the holder with a momento of history. Granted a Raycyca slabbed coin is probably worth less than most but it would be VERY special to my familiy/heirs. I just bought a Binion dollar from Teletrade and it's an NGC(sorry, please no flames) pedigreed coin. It's graded MS63 with the "star" designation. It has a FANTASTIC rainbow toned crescent shape. I paid way over list for the coin but I purchased it strictly for the color. Now I also appreciate the pedigree in being I can provide provinence in playing a part in numismatic history. Teletrade is the only place in the world you will be able to purchase the rainbow toned silver dollars from the Binion collection. I would not purchase anything other than the toned coins as their worth even though pedigreed, I believe would be minimal. Sorry for the ranting but that's my 2 cents(unslabbed).
    You only live life once, enjoy it like it's your last day. It just MIGHT be!

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  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    Some people like pedigreed coins; some dont. I like them. I bought three LaBute cents a month or two ago. They're the only pedigreed coins I've ever owned. Two of them were nicer than the examples I had in my set. One wasnt. The two that "upgraded" my set, I have in my set. The one that didnt, I have off in my extras box.

    I think it is nice to have a pedigree on the holder. As a collector, its nice to look at a coin that you own and know that that coin was once in one of the finest sets in the world. And if the nostalgia doesnt do anything for you... the resale premium is pretty nice.
  • I think people are missing the point when they say they don't want a pedigree on their coins. First we should agree that we are talking about historically important coins, although the process would apply to any scarce or rare coin. As collectors, we are custodians of the coins during the time they are in our possession. Our numismatic responsibility is to preserve these coins for future collectors/generations much like the Art Institute would do with a painting. This said, who wouldn't want to own a coin in the same state of preservation as it was when it came from the Cleneay, Boyd, Garrett, Norweb, Eliasberg, or any other major collection? We should feel some responsibility to preserve that numismatic history. A person that would intentionally lose that pedigree is a fool and not a true collector , just MHO.
    JSwan
    JSwan / Swan Family Type Collection
  • scherscher Posts: 924
    I sure agree with Swan and Tradedollarnut too...nice to know the history shouldnt erase if at all possible..its even nice to know previous auction history of the coins.. I have some "Bass" proof gold and dont think I would want to change em out even if they became part of a set that I had completed and registered.
    bruce scher
  • Yep. I wish I could know each and every person who handled my collectible coins, or at least their names and order (before or after they were taken out of circulation, and before or after they were slabbed).
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