Are You Protective of Your Online Coin Pictures?

ceeveeNJ

Another newbie question for y'all. Are you protective of the coin pictures you post online? You know, the ones that took hours to get "just right"?
I ask because I'd like to grab some nice (high-rez) pictures of coins off of the Internet for use in an article I'd like to write. I just don't want to have any issues with someone later emailing me to remove "their" pictures for whatever reason.

So, what is the proper etiquette amongst numismatists?

*** Is it once you post the photo online it's free for all to use?
*** Or, do I need to get explicit permission from the owner/photographer?
*** Or, would a simple "photography credit" under the picture be necessary?
*** Or, am I worrying about nothing?

Thanks!

blu62vette

If you are going to use them in an article you should have permission to do so.

PQMorgans

I had one of mine show up on others website. I wrote the guy and said he would credit the photo to me. He never did.

There was some discussion on this forun a while ago of a new law I believe that will allow any picture that is not registered to be considered a public picture. Not really sure where that discussion went.

291fifth

Read the agreement you OK'd when you joined this forum.

blu62vette

<< <i>Read the agreement you OK'd when you joined this forum. >>



He didnt specify where he was getting the pics from, just the internet.

MikeInFL

<< <i>Another newbie question for y'all. Are you protective of the coin pictures you post online? You know, the ones that took hours to get "just right"?
I ask because I'd like to grab some nice (high-rez) pictures of coins off of the Internet for use in an article I'd like to write. I just don't want to have any issues with someone later emailing me to remove "their" pictures for whatever reason.

So, what is the proper etiquette amongst numismatists?

*** Is it once you post the photo online it's free for all to use?
*** Or, do I need to get explicit permission from the owner/photographer?
*** Or, would a simple "photography credit" under the picture be necessary?
*** Or, am I worrying about nothing?

Thanks! >>



I am not at all protective of my coin pictures.

However, it is proper etiquette (IMO) to use anyone's pictures in our own published works, including forum posts, websites, etc., ONLY after getting permission of the photographer.

Respectfully...Mike

Bochiman

<< <i>If you are going to use them in an article you should have permission to do so. >>



I agree...to do anything less would be the acts of someone I would not support not want to work with.
It's different if someone is saving the photos for their own personal enjoyment (for whatever reason there) but when it is for an article or business of some sort, that should mean getting the permission of the person who took the photos and giving credit to them.

InternetJunky

I believe you should always ask permission from the photographer no matter what but also credit them in the article if they agree to it. I wouldn't however, mention their name without their permission. Give respect to those that deserve it.

ziggy29

Unless they are using my images for fraudulent purposes, I don't really care. And if they bought the coin from me based on those images, I doubly don't care. But having said that, asking for permission ahead of time is appreciated.

speety

<< <i>Unless they are using my images for fraudulent purposes, I don't really care. And if they bought the coin from me based on those images, I doubly don't care. But having said that, asking for permission ahead of time is appreciated. >>




I'm with him.

zeebob

You must have written permission to use other peoples work. Citations are allowed up to something like 10%, I think.

All I know is that every publisher (magazine or book) that I've worked with, as an author, has had strict policies about having written authorization in place from the original author for any work that I reprinted.

I have never found another author unwilling to let me use photos, graphics, text or even code libraries as long as there was appropriate credit given to the original author.

Blu62vette (and several other forum members) are all great photographers and can probably provide whatever you need.

I have never really been clear on who owns the rights to a photograph. For example, if I contract with a photographer to image a coin, does the photographer retain rights to the image? Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone know?

intence

you should always watermark your images IMO

ctf_error_coins

You need permission to use the images.

You should PAY to use the images or learn how to photograph yourself.

ctf_error_coins

<< <i>You must have written permission to use other peoples work. Citations are allowed up to something like 10%, I think.

All I know is that every publisher (magazine or book) that I've worked with, as an author, has had strict policies about having written authorization in place from the original author for any work that I reprinted.

I have never found another author unwilling to let me use photos, graphics, text or even code libraries as long as there was appropriate credit given to the original author.

Blu62vette (and several other forum members) are all great photographers and can probably provide whatever you need.

I have never really been clear on who owns the rights to a photograph. For example, if I contract with a photographer to image a coin, does the photographer retain rights to the image? Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone know? >>



The photographer owns the right to the image unless it was a work-for-hire agreement which is horrible for the photographer. You own the coin and the photographer can't sell the use of the image (except for editorial purposes) without the owner of the properties permission.

Wiscane

<< <i>You need permission to use the images.

You should PAY to use the images or learn how to photograph yourself. >>




.... I have a follow question you might answer.
.... If you buy a coin with a photo used in the sale. You buy the coin .... is the coin photo yours to use also ? This seems like it may be a "grey" area.

ctf_error_coins

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<< <i>You need permission to use the images.

You should PAY to use the images or learn how to photograph yourself. >>




.... I have a follow question you might answer.
.... If you buy a coin with a photo used in the sale. You buy the coin .... is the coin photo yours to use also ? This seems like it may be a "grey" area. >>



No grey area, the photographer owns the rights to the photograph.

speety

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<< <i>

<< <i>You need permission to use the images.

You should PAY to use the images or learn how to photograph yourself. >>




.... I have a follow question you might answer.
.... If you buy a coin with a photo used in the sale. You buy the coin .... is the coin photo yours to use also ? This seems like it may be a "grey" area. >>



No grey area, the photographer owns the rights to the photograph. >>



I agree, that being said, i have not found any seller who has not allowed their images of the coin to be used by the new owner when asked.

JCMhouston

Even though it's on the internet it's not ok to steal it. In my opinion you get permission from the owner, and a short credit.

BECOKA

All I ask is that you give credit to the photographer and link to the original source.

Ben

MikeInFL

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<< <i>

<< <i>You need permission to use the images.

You should PAY to use the images or learn how to photograph yourself. >>




.... I have a follow question you might answer.
.... If you buy a coin with a photo used in the sale. You buy the coin .... is the coin photo yours to use also ? This seems like it may be a "grey" area. >>



No grey area, the photographer owns the rights to the photograph. >>



I disagree. The area is quite grey, IMO, although not for the reason the poster above suggests. Please see Bridgeman Art Library -v- Corel Corp...Mike

Mesquite

That raises a question for me. If I go to Brandon's website (for example) and spot an absolutely knockout coin, copy the pic and post it here (acknowledging that it is neither my coin nor my picture); is this OK. I know this has happened here in the past, and by me a time or two.