Grading U.S. Coins 101 tonight... What opinions do you have on why..

YaHa

This coin didn't make a MS 67 grade.. Because?

I think the breast feathers on the reverse.. and the weak strike on the obverse..

I say solid MS 66..

Opinions please.. Everyone loves to learn..



Silver Dollar 1886 NGC 66
Weakbreastfeathers

Shortgapbob

I would say primarily due to the coin not being fully struck.

anablep

I'm wondering if the luster may be a bit muted.

67's should have booming luster.

The strike, especially the hair above the ear of Liberty, is a tad weak...

Nice coin.

breakintheweb

I didn't think strike affects grade.....

RedTiger

Here is the coin linked in the original post:

#1


Here are two NGC 67s of the same date
#2 NGC 67


#3 NGC 67


Here are two more NGC 66s same date
#4 NGC 66


#5 NGC 66


What can you see?

I would say coins #2, 3, and 4 all have better luster than #1. Marks limit coin #4 to MS66. Coin #5 is about even with coin #1.

That said, hide off the labels, and I might get 66/67 right about 70% of the time, less with toners. For most it is a bit easier to compare images or coins side by side, and to say which coin looks better.

robkool

Strike & mint luster...

YaHa

<< <i>Here is the coin linked in the original post:

#1


Here are two NGC 67s of the same date
#2 NGC 67


#3 NGC 67


Here are two more NGC 66s same date
#4 NGC 66


#5 NGC 66


What can you see?

I would say coins #2, 3, and 4 all have better luster than #1. Marks limit coin #4 to MS66. Coin #5 is about even with coin #1.

That said, hide off the labels, and I might get 66/67 right about 70% of the time, less with toners. For most it is a bit easier to compare images or coins side by side, and to say which coin looks better. >>




Very nice comparison. I do think #1 has the least marks. But am I missing something, shouldn't the breast feathers stand out more vivid and stern on the eagles chest?

I see also what others are talking about the strike on the obverse, weak, plain. That was a hard year also for minting Morgans yes?

Thanks fellows it's a treat to hear whatca thinking..

fc

i would also guess it was a weaker strike and the tpg wants to see
a better strike for the higher grade.

itsnotjustme

Agree, weak obverse strike. Yes, strike does affect grade.

golfer72

1886 is normally pretty well struck. The coin in question is weak with muted luster. Not 67 quality at all.

astrorat

<< <i>I didn't think strike affects grade..... >>



In market grading (which is what is used in the market place now), strike is one of the four components for grading. These four are:

Strike
Luster
Surfaces
Eye appeal (THE most important determinant)

Strike is NOT a factor when using technical grading, however.

Lane

DNADave

Has it been submitted more than once?