<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
You are better than I am. I cannot tell if he is selling a $50 gold coin or not. I would assume it was a token, but the $50 in the title and the picture of an NGC gold buffalo one ounce coin have me confused.
<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
You are better than I am. I cannot tell if he is selling a $50 gold coin or not. I would assume it was a token, but the $50 in the title and the picture of an NGC gold buffalo one ounce coin have me confused. >>
The seller could have at least cropped the Buffalo so the holder wouldn't be a part of the picture, and then magnified it 100x so buyers wouldn't need a loupe to see it.
<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
Agreed. Not a problem since we all know that every eBay buyer reads and comprehends every word in a listing.
Russ, NCNE >>
You're right. It isn't a problem. People (at least anyone of legal age and mental capacity--both of which are required by Ebay to open an account) who cannot be bothered to check out what they are buying deserve absolutely no sympathy.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
Not only is clad in the title there are many more clues in the discription. "But here is your Opportunity To Own A Flawless Tribute Of This Majestic Coin. Layered In Pure 24K Gold Using The Utmost In Precision Embossing Technology To Show Every Last Detail Of The Indian Chief On the Obverse And All The Prowess and Grandeur Of The American Bison On the Reverse.
There is only limited availability of these absolutely beautiful Tributes." Tributes,Layered,Embossing If one does not know what these terms mean one might not what to be buying coins on ebay or any other venue for that matter untill they sharpen up thier numismatic word skills.
''Coin collecting is the only hobby where you can spend all your money and still have some left''
<< <i>Not only is clad in the title there are many more clues in the discription. "But here is your Opportunity To Own A Flawless Tribute Of This Majestic Coin. Layered In Pure 24K Gold Using The Utmost In Precision Embossing Technology To Show Every Last Detail Of The Indian Chief On the Obverse And All The Prowess and Grandeur Of The American Bison On the Reverse.
There is only limited availability of these absolutely beautiful Tributes." Tributes,Layered,Embossing If one does not know what these terms mean one might not what to be buying coins on ebay or any other venue for that matter untill they sharpen up thier numismatic word skills. >>
A prospective buyer should not have to decipher "clues" to figure out what is being offered for sale. A listing should be clear and concise. If a photo is used it should be a photo of what is being sold. If it is not a photo of what is being sold, the description should clearly say so. This listing reminds me of one of those full page car dealership advertisements that leaves the reader wonder "just what the hell are they selling and for how much." I do agree with you on one thing; the seller is clearly searching for a buyer who knows little about numismatics. And here lies the problem: As more non collectors seek the safe haven of gold ownership, sellers like this will have something to offer them.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
<< <i>A prospective buyer should not have to decipher "clues" to figure out what is being offered for sale. A listing should be clear and concise. If a photo is used it should be a photo of what is being sold. If it is not a photo of what is being sold, the description should clearly say so. This listing reminds me of one of those full page car dealership advertisements that leaves the reader wonder "just what the hell are they selling and for how much." I do agree with you on one thing; the seller is clearly searching for a buyer who knows little about numismatics. And here lies the problem: As more non collectors seek the safe haven of gold ownership, sellers like this will have something to offer them. >>
<< <i>You're right. It isn't a problem. People (at least anyone of legal age and mental capacity--both of which are required by Ebay to open an account) who cannot be bothered to check out what they are buying deserve absolutely no sympathy >>
I agree with the second statement. That is all.
''Coin collecting is the only hobby where you can spend all your money and still have some left''
The seller knows that what he is doing is misleading, but does it anyway. Some people have no integrity. If it were not for scams, E-bay would be a wonderful place to shop and sale.
<< <i>The seller knows that what he is doing is misleading, but does it anyway. Some people have no integrity. If it were not for scams, E-bay would be a wonderful place to shop and sale. >>
People who are too busy rubbing their hands together and slavering at the mouth thinking that they are going to rip some dealer who doesn't know what he has to even read the auction listing are AT LEAST as guilty as the dealer who baits a trap.
A buyer who thinks that he is going to ripoff a 1000 dollar coin for 20 bucks is every bit as scummy as this seller.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
Well, I find the fact that he used a photo of a real 2006 Gold Buffalo in an Early Release NGC Slab to be just a bit misleading since he's not really selling an NGC Graded coin.
That would be just as misleading as a seller presenting pictures from an automobile promotional flyer for a brand new 1966 Mustang when in fact the seller was selling a 1975 Mustang II. Would that be misleading?
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
Not if he stated several times (as was done here) that he was selling a '75. Once again, if people weren't so interested in ripping off sellers that they can't be bothered to read the description then sellers wouldn't bait hooks.
Do I do business this way? No, and I don't recommend that others do either. However, buyers who allow themselves to be taken while trying to do the same to sellers earn no sympathy.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
Looks like no one has taken the bait so far. I guess eBayers aren't as dumb as we think they are. But then again, it only takes two idiots to get into a bidding war.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
The too-small-to-see-anything photo tips the balance for me into the Deception end of the pool, versus the Just Shameless Marketing Hype For a POS end.
......to put it another way, the ignorance of the average eBay buyer is not justification for bad seller behavior.
I would ask, "is there justification for bad seller behavior?"
What about the ignorance of the 'average' home buyer just a few years ago? We can all say, "What were you thinking?" getting a $500K loan when you make 25K a year.
Bottom line is when unscrupulous people, be they sellers, loan agents, CEOs, TPG....., we all pay for it in the end (figuratively). ____________________________________
TwoSides2aCoin, you're close, just replace the picture with one of a graded IHC & see what happens.
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<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
You are better than I am. I cannot tell if he is selling a $50 gold coin or not. I would assume it was a token, but the $50 in the title and the picture of an NGC gold buffalo one ounce coin have me confused.
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<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
You are better than I am. I cannot tell if he is selling a $50 gold coin or not. I would assume it was a token, but the $50 in the title and the picture of an NGC gold buffalo one ounce coin have me confused. >>
The seller could have at least cropped the Buffalo so the holder wouldn't be a part of the picture, and then magnified it 100x so buyers wouldn't need a loupe to see it.
<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
Agreed. Not a problem since we all know that every eBay buyer reads and comprehends every word in a listing.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
I agree. The seller is vague about the coin. He makes it seem like a perfect copy that isn't the "real" coin!
Positive BST as a seller: Namvet69, Lordmarcovan, Bigjpst, Soldi, mustanggt, CoinHoader, moursund, SufinxHi, al410, JWP
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<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
Agreed. Not a problem since we all know that every eBay buyer reads and comprehends every word in a listing.
Russ, NCNE >>
You're right. It isn't a problem. People (at least anyone of legal age and mental capacity--both of which are required by Ebay to open an account) who cannot be bothered to check out what they are buying deserve absolutely no sympathy.
There is only limited availability of these absolutely beautiful Tributes."
Tributes,Layered,Embossing If one does not know what these terms mean one might not what to be buying coins on ebay or any other venue for that matter untill they sharpen up thier numismatic word skills.
<< <i>Not only is clad in the title there are many more clues in the discription. "But here is your Opportunity To Own A Flawless Tribute Of This Majestic Coin. Layered In Pure 24K Gold Using The Utmost In Precision Embossing Technology To Show Every Last Detail Of The Indian Chief On the Obverse And All The Prowess and Grandeur Of The American Bison On the Reverse.
There is only limited availability of these absolutely beautiful Tributes."
Tributes,Layered,Embossing If one does not know what these terms mean one might not what to be buying coins on ebay or any other venue for that matter untill they sharpen up thier numismatic word skills. >>
A prospective buyer should not have to decipher "clues" to figure out what is being offered for sale. A listing should be clear and concise. If a photo is used it should be a photo of what is being sold. If it is not a photo of what is being sold, the description should clearly say so. This listing reminds me of one of those full page car dealership advertisements that leaves the reader wonder "just what the hell are they selling and for how much." I do agree with you on one thing; the seller is clearly searching for a buyer who knows little about numismatics. And here lies the problem: As more non collectors seek the safe haven of gold ownership, sellers like this will have something to offer them.
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
<< <i>A prospective buyer should not have to decipher "clues" to figure out what is being offered for sale. >>
Correct. Or, to put it another way, the ignorance of the average eBay buyer is not justification for bad seller behavior.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>A prospective buyer should not have to decipher "clues" to figure out what is being offered for sale. A listing should be clear and concise. If a photo is used it should be a photo of what is being sold. If it is not a photo of what is being sold, the description should clearly say so. This listing reminds me of one of those full page car dealership advertisements that leaves the reader wonder "just what the hell are they selling and for how much." I do agree with you on one thing; the seller is clearly searching for a buyer who knows little about numismatics. And here lies the problem: As more non collectors seek the safe haven of gold ownership, sellers like this will have something to offer them. >>
<< <i>You're right. It isn't a problem. People (at least anyone of legal age and mental capacity--both of which are required by Ebay to open an account) who cannot be bothered to check out what they are buying deserve absolutely no sympathy >>
I agree with the second statement. That is all.
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
This is the greatest and best coin in the world. . . tribute.
<< <i>Listed under "bullion", which it clearly is not. >>
This so-called "tribute" has no place in the bullion category. Seller's text may be strictly accurate but is deceitful.
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Freshly made for this thread.
<< <i>The seller knows that what he is doing is misleading, but does it anyway. Some people have no integrity. If it were not for scams, E-bay would be a wonderful place to shop and sale.
People who are too busy rubbing their hands together and slavering at the mouth thinking that they are going to rip some dealer who doesn't know what he has to even read the auction listing are AT LEAST as guilty as the dealer who baits a trap.
A buyer who thinks that he is going to ripoff a 1000 dollar coin for 20 bucks is every bit as scummy as this seller.
Obviously not the $50 Buffalo, but which is it 22K or 24K?
<< <i>No worse than this
Freshly made for this thread. >>
Yeah this guy is clearly trying to confuse buyers as to what are key date coins.
<< <i>What's misleading about it? He tells you just exactly what he is selling. >>
Well, I find the fact that he used a photo of a real 2006 Gold Buffalo in an Early Release NGC Slab to be just a bit misleading since he's not really selling an NGC Graded coin.
That would be just as misleading as a seller presenting pictures from an automobile promotional flyer for a brand new 1966 Mustang when in fact the seller was selling a 1975 Mustang II. Would that be misleading?
The name is LEE!
Do I do business this way? No, and I don't recommend that others do either. However, buyers who allow themselves to be taken while trying to do the same to sellers earn no sympathy.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
I would ask, "is there justification for bad seller behavior?"
What about the ignorance of the 'average' home buyer just a few years ago?
We can all say, "What were you thinking?" getting a $500K loan when you make 25K a year.
Bottom line is when unscrupulous people, be they sellers, loan agents, CEOs, TPG....., we all pay for it in the end (figuratively).
____________________________________
TwoSides2aCoin, you're close, just replace the picture with one of a graded IHC & see what happens.