Face to face meeting with coach resolves nothing - Jay Cutler wants to be traded

Michigan · March 15, 2009 9:39PM

Is any rookie NFL head coach ever had a worse start than Josh McDaniels? He hasen't even coached a game yet and the organization
is in chaos. The Broncos owner is very upset about the whole situation, maybe firing Mike Shanahan was not such a great idea
after all.

Problem is who would they get to replace Cutler? There are not that many good quarterbacks out there that teams are going to want
to part with.

Bosox1976 · March 15, 2009 10:23PM

He had good luck with his last USC QB...

Trade Cutler for a #1 and a #2, grab Sanchez and a rock solid OL.

I love the espn piece where Cutler is compared to Jeff George.

perkdog · March 15, 2009 11:33PM

That coach needs to man up and tell Cutler to shut his punk mouth and be ready for training camp when it opens.

Michigan · March 16, 2009 2:30AM

If this situation is not resolved by draft day it could make for some interesting trade scenarios.

lawnmowerman · March 16, 2009 4:26AM

Would any team really want this guy now?. Seeing how emotionally weak he is, I know I wouldn't.

Champions respond to the pressure of someone trying to take their job by stepping up and meeting the challenge. They definitely don't cry about it and want to go somewhere else as he is doing.

What a flag.

ROCKDJRW · March 16, 2009 4:56AM

<< <i>Would any team really want this guy now? >>

All the stories I have heard about this guy really make him out to be a total D-bag! That being said I would take him on the Bears in a heartbeat!!
Try this since 1991: Harbaugh 1992: Harbaugh, Peter Tom Willis, Will Furrer 1993: Harbaugh, Willis 1994: Erik Kramer, Steve Walsh 1995: Kramer 1996: Kramer, Dave Kreig 1997: Kramer, Rick Mirer 1998: Kramer, Steve Stenstrom, Moses Moreno 1999: Shane Matthews, Cade McNown, Jim Miller 2000: McNown, Matthews, Miller 2001: Miller, Matthews 2002: Miller, Chris Chandler, Henry Burris 2003: Kordell Stewart, Chandler, Rex Grossman 2004: Grossman, Jonathan Quinn, Craig Krenzel, Chad Hutchinson 2005: Kyle Orton, Grossman 2006: Grossman 2007: Grossman, Brian Griese, Orton 2008: Orton, Grossman (1 game vs. Tennessee)

Maybe Moses Moreno was emotionally strong but he still blew at quarterback.

DaBeef · March 16, 2009 5:01AM

There are a ton of teams that will make offers for Cutler. Bottom line is this, he was a pro bowl guy last year. Attitude is "stubborn", not necessarily "bad". Minnesota is going after him, but I doubt they get him. If they would, and add Terry Holt, well then I think we finally have all the tools to get "there".

joestalin · March 16, 2009 7:02AM

Ill take soft and 4500 yards passing, especially when we have two bulldozers at RB.

JS

dirtmonkey · March 17, 2009 12:35AM

I'd take the guy. As for his response to what happened, can you really blame the guy? C'mon, he did big things for Denver last year and they tried to trade him for a back-up? Then they lied about it? Why would you want to play for them anymore? Apparently they wont be happy with his play, no matter what he does. Would be funny if they were stuck with Simms as their starter. Obviously, I'd love for Detroit to get him but I just don't see it happening. There's a report today on the radio that Mayhew hopped on a plane to Denver this morning, but I suspect that it's BS. But if they do make the deal, I'd be interested to hear what the Lions are giving up. I'm not sure how much I'd want them to give up for a guy that's really only done it for one year. Time will tell.

joestalin · March 17, 2009 3:01AM

Cutler to Bryant TOUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Sorry, just practicing.

JS

Boopotts · March 17, 2009 4:15AM

<< <i>I'd take the guy. As for his response to what happened, can you really blame the guy? C'mon, he did big things for Denver last year and they tried to trade him for a back-up? Then they lied about it? Why would you want to play for them anymore? Apparently they wont be happy with his play, no matter what he does. Would be funny if they were stuck with Simms as their starter. Obviously, I'd love for Detroit to get him but I just don't see it happening. There's a report today on the radio that Mayhew hopped on a plane to Denver this morning, but I suspect that it's BS. But if they do make the deal, I'd be interested to hear what the Lions are giving up. I'm not sure how much I'd want them to give up for a guy that's really only done it for one year. Time will tell. >>

I'd give up Calvin Johnson and the pick they got from Dallas, and I wouldn't think twice about doing it. WR is by far the most overrated position on the field.

There's usually only two ways to land a quarterback that ranks in the top 1/3 of the league.

1) Draft high, pay a king's ransom and hope he works out.
2) Draft one in the later rounds and hope you hit the NFL's equivalent of the Lotto.

Opportunities like this just don't pop up very often, and when they do you have to seize them. And since the alternative appears to be drafting Matt Stafford #1, what you'd really be doing is trading Calvin, the #20 pick and Matt Stafford (and his sure-to-be bloated contract) for Jay Cutler and some kind of lock-down stud defender (Raji, Curry, whomever). To me, that looks like a slam dunk.

edmundfitzgerald · March 17, 2009 8:23AM

Cutler is pissed at the Broncos for the trade fiasco. He just won't play for them again. I don't blame him.
There are a dozen teams that would like him to be their starter, trust me.

Morgoth · March 17, 2009 8:32AM

In the NFL all the players have a code they expect ownership to live by. If you are the team leader and QB of the future, they don't expect to be blindsided by trade rumors, especially for a career backup QB who had one good season on a previous SB team. Cutler viewed it as his team and now he basically is told he is expendable. Seems odd to me that he would be the first to be traded on a team the imploded in defense last year.

The McCoach screwed the pooch on this one by even considering the deal and letting it leak out. He should know that these things always get out. You don't even try this unless your about 110% sure you can pull it off because the fall out is well this.

grote15 · March 17, 2009 10:11AM

Rumor in NYC press is that Cutler may be headed to Jets in 3-team trade that would send Leon Washington to AZ and Leinart and the Jets' #1 pick to Denver...I have mixed feeling about Cutler, don't like his attitude personally, but we could use the help at QB...Still, Leon Washington and a #1 pick seems steep..

DaBeef · March 17, 2009 11:26AM

Sounds like a good trade for all teams.

Morgoth · March 17, 2009 11:26AM

Cutler will solve your QB problem for alot of years. RBs are pretty easy to find compared to QBs.

SoFLPhillyFan · March 17, 2009 11:27AM

I'm in Denver on business this week. Can't see where the team will go if they trade him. That said the city wants him to go. Must be hard fighting the specter of John Elway.

All they have now is Chris "Not That There's Anything Wrong With Having Some Dude's Name Tattooed On Your Leg" Simms.

A story in the Denver Post this morning posed three trades, all concoctions of the delirious or brutally sarcastic.

Quinn, Romo, or trade up and take Stafford.

The only one with a fighting chance would be trading up, but don't see that happening.

Morgoth · March 17, 2009 11:29AM

People in Denver must delusional if they want him gone. I can't see Leinert being better year 1

grote15 · March 17, 2009 11:43AM

Much as I do like Leon Washington and dislike giving up a #1 pick (we dont have a second rounder either), I can't argue that Cutler has a big time arm and would be a huge upgrade over Clemens at QB..

dirtmonkey · March 19, 2009 10:46PM

I've read so much about this over the last week, I'm not sure if I'd want him (Cutler) to come to Detroit anymore. Apparently he made it known that he wanted to be traded after Shanahan was fired and the O coord left. That statement fizzled for a few weeks until Denver tried to make the Cassell deal. Then Jay acts all high and mighty because the team tried to trade him, even though he expressed a desire to leave earlier? WTF?

As for trading Calvin and the #20 for Jay, NO!!! Cutler has been the cheese for one year. I like(d) the idea of what he could bring to Detroit, but Calvin is certainly an elite WR IMO. Hard to convince me, as a Lions fan, that the WR position is overrated. Detroit drafted 4 very high over 5 years. 1 is left. The others sucked. Roy was the best of the rest (after Calvin), and he was overrated... by Dallas. I'm in total agreement with you about the lack of opportunity to acquire such a highly rated QB, but technically he was only 16th in QB rating last year. Aside from the yardage, he was 14th in completion percentage. He was 7th in TD's, but 2nd in interceptions. I think he could be a very solid QB here, but not without Calvin. There's nobody else here to catch the ball.

In the end, after all I've been reading I'd rather see Detroit draft Stafford if they're intent on getting a QB with the first overall pick. Sure it a risk. But every pick is, especially when Detroit is on the board.

SanctionII · March 20, 2009 4:27AM

Bring back John Elway.

It seems to me that Denver fans, after Elway retired, are like UCLA fans after John Wooden retired.

Nobody playing quarterback (including Greise, Plummer and Cutler) after Elway was/is good enough. Just like no coach at UCLA after Wooden retired was good enough.

Shanahan had a pretty good regular season run with Denver after Elway retried, but he could not get back to the Superbowl and was mostly lousy in the playoffs (Denver deservedly lost to the Steelers in the AFC Championship a few years ago and lost initial playoff games in other years when it made the playoffs).

A house cleaning in Denver with the new coach remaking the franchise with players he selects is probably a good thing.

lawnmowerman · March 20, 2009 4:48AM

<< <i>

It seems to me that Denver fans, after Elway retired, are like UCLA fans after John Wooden retired.

Nobody playing quarterback (including Greise, Plummer and Cutler) after Elway was/is good enough. Just like no coach at UCLA after Wooden retired was good enough. >>

Same goes for the Dallas Cowboys after Jimmy Johnson was fired. The team/organization has never been the same.

Face to face meeting with coach resolves nothing - Jay Cutler wants to be traded

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