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I finally got around to submitting my stamps!

Well here is the first submission.

Order #20282978 / Submission #1079431
Line # Item # Cert # Spec # Grade Scott # Issued Denom. Variety Country
1 1 01198607 100361 183 1879 2c US
2 1 01198608 100493 259 1894 15c US
3 1 01198609 125554 267a 1895 2c type III US
4 1 01198610 100650 334 1908 4c US
5 1 01198611 100697 370 1909 2c US
6 1 01198612 100738 403 1915 5c US
7 1 01198613 100864 501 1917 3c type I US
8 1 01198614 101007 575 1923 1c imperf US
9 1 01198615 101045 611 1923 2c US
10 1 01198616 101057 620 1925 2c US
11 1 01198617 101058 621 1925 5c US
12 1 01198618 101058 621 1925 5c US
13 1 01198619 101106 658 1929 1c Kans. US
14 1 01198620 101106 658 1929 1c Kans. US
15 1 01198621 101123 669 1929 1c Nebr. US

Total Items: 15

Date Received: 3/10/2009

Date Shipped: N/A
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  • And here is the second, hopefully it's slow at PSE and I will get these back quickly, I'm kicking myself because I forgot about 3 other stamps I wanted to send . Oh well next time...

    Order #20282981 / Submission #1075428
    Line # Item # Cert # Spec # Grade Scott # Issued Denom. Variety Country
    1 1 01198622 100368 189 1879 15c US
    2 1 01198623 100584 301 1903 2c US
    3 1 01198624 100634 326 1904 5c US
    4 1 01198625 100671 347 1909 5c imperf US
    5 1 01198626 100698 371 1909 2c US
    6 1 01198627 100713 383 1910 1c imperf US
    7 1 01198628 100721 390 1910 1c coil US
    8 1 01198629 100747 409 1912 2c imperf US
    9 1 01198630 100754 416 1912 10c US
    10 1 01198631 100755 417 1914 12c US
    11 1 01198632 100830 481 1916 1c imperf US
    12 1 01198633 100831 482 1916 2c type I, imperf US
    13 1 01198634 100833 483 1917 3c type I, imperf US
    14 1 01198635 100833 483 1917 3c type I, imperf US
    15 1 01198636 100902 518 1917 $1 US
    16 1 01198637 100932 533 1918 2c imperf, type V US
    17 1 01198638 100933 534 1918 2c imperf, type Va US
    18 1 01198639 500742 534A 1918 2c US
    19 1 01198640 100936 535 1918 3c imperf US
    20 1 01198641 101854 E2 1888 10c US

    Total Items: 20

    Date Received: 3/10/2009
  • KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    Are you going encapsulated?
    Did they ever come up with a box designed to hold PSE slabs?
  • Encapsulated: yes
    Box: I don't think so.
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good luck on the grades,
    I used to have a nice set of the Kansas Nebrasca Overprints
  • I hope you get good grades! Did you send in all those on the first list on the same invoice? You can send in the newer stamps (552 and up I believe) at a discount rate of $20 each if you have at least 5 and group them on a separate invoice. In my experience, they tend to turn these around faster too.

    Matt
  • You have to have a minimum of 10, for the lower fee. I have some nice later SC# MNH stamps but with the prices these are going for(not much) I decided to squeeze in some of my earlier more potentially valuable used or stamps I had a liking for. Believe me I thought of every which way to make 10 post 551 stamps worth sending and then at the last minute picked up some better earlier that were more than I could fit on the first pre-552 invoice (20) The difference in the fee to me was less than had I sent a bunch of newer stamps that I couldn't get rid of for as much as it cost me to submit them (unless they all turned out to be 100J's which I highly doubt) In the end the decision made sense to me. I did realize later there were 3 stamps I forgot to submit with shorter invoice DUH!!!

    I do expect to get some good grades on these, I sat on most of these for a year(not literally LOL). The used imperfs are very challenging to find with 95+ centering and nice cancels. I have yet to see a used 320 variety that would barely grade 95. Most of the imperfs I submitted should be 98 or higher but I know a few will be 95's maybe a even a 90. The toughest ones for me so far are the offset imperfs. I'm excited as the majority of these will go directly to my registry sets with a few left for sale or trade.
  • Sounds awesome edueku. I know how agonizing the wait can be. I'm waiting on a set that was submitted Feb 23.

    Every so often PSE revises the rules on various submission categories. The latest submission form I have in front of me shows a revision date of 12/08. It states a minimum submission of 5 for economy service. I know it used to be 10. They're also now listing a "modern" submission category of 704 and up with a minimum submission of 10. I saw a separate flyer promoting that that mentioned an additional requirement that the stamps be the same Scott number or from the same set, although there is no mention of such a requirement on the new submission form. Cost for modern service is $8 per stamp, with a $4 reject fee if it doesn't meet minimum grade.
  • Arrrgh... guess I had one of the older forms, seems they change them a lot. Maybe I should ask them to send me some NEW ones. Crap, I would have done my submissions totally differently. Thanks for the heads up.
  • On that modern submission deal I thought it was a minimum submission TOTAL of 200 stamps with at least 10 of each Scott# submitted. If it is different than that now I might send some moderns in.

    What stamps did you submit?

    I'd like to see.

    I would think PSE would be a bit slow this time of year and with the economy and all.
    I like the quick turnaround option but it's a bit expensive for my budget.
  • They used to offer that bulk service with a minimum submission of 200. I'm not sure if they still do, but it's no longer listed on the submission form. I'm hoping that the modern service is similar to the economy service in that you can send in a hodge-podge of whatever. I haven't tried it yet.

    The submission I sent in Feb 23 included these 14 stamps:

    1 01197907 100299 145 1870 1c
    2 01197908 100338 165 1873 30c
    3 01197909 100431 226 1890 10c
    4 01197910 100400 212 1887 1c
    5 01197911 100562 287 1898 4c
    6 01197912 100579 299 1901 10c
    7 01197913 100818 470 1916 8c
    8 01197914 100883 509 1917 9c
    9 01197915 100886 511 1917 11c
    10 01197916 103133 Q1 1913 1c
    11 01197917 100577 297 1901 5c
    12 01197918 127472 303 1903 4c
    13 01197919 100451 234 1893 5c
    14 01197920 100525 274 1895 15c


    When they are ready, they'll show up as cert. numbers 1197907-1197920. Most of them are used. The 287, 509, and 303 are NH (hopefully).

    I'm just about ready to send in another group in the next week or 2.

    Matt
  • Good luck on the grades, maybe if you have extras we can trade.
  • Thanks. What do you collect? I collect used US for myself, although I dabble in mint NH for investment. Most everything I don't keep myself has been going on consignment to www.gradedstamps.com

    Matt
  • I collect used US , I think we have talked before my name is Zac

    My sets on the registry:
    My registry sets...
  • Thanks Zac. We have spoken before. I forget who's who sometimes image

    I just got this email from PSE:

    PSE Announces Spring Discount

    Responding to the times, PSE has announced it will offer its expertizing and grading services at a generous discount from April 1 through June 30, 2009.

    Available on all services except its $8 Modern Service, PSE will extend a 10% discount on submissions of 1 to 10 stamps, and 20% on submissions of 11 to 20 stamps.

    According to PSE President Michael Sherman, "PSE realizes times are tight, and is glad to do its part to help its customers through this period. PSE certification remains the best way to ensure the value and liquidity of your stamps in any market. While prices have come down some, properly expertized and graded stamps continue to provide both the buyer and seller with an unbiased third-party opinion and the ability to trade with confidence."

    For more information on how to submit your stamps, call 949-567-1346, write us at P.O. Box 6170, Newport Beach, CA 92658, or visit our website at www.psestamp.com.

  • Yeah I got the same , my stamps were received there Mar 10th I wonder if I'll get that discount? I wrote Camille back to ask about it.
  • I just checked and PSE is sending my order out today. Definitely a mixed bag on this submission:

    1 1 01197907 100299 XF-Sup 95, Used 145 1870 1c US
    2 1 01197908 100338 NG 0, Used 165 1873 30c US
    3 1 01197909 100431 NG 0, Used 226 1890 10c US
    4 1 01197910 100400 VF-XF 85J, Used 212 1887 1c US
    5 1 01197911 100562 XF 90, Mint OGph 287 1898 4c US
    6 1 01197912 100579 VF 80, Used 299 1901 10c US
    7 1 01197913 100818 VF 80, Used 470 1916 8c US
    8 1 01197914 100883 XF 90, Mint OGnh 509 1917 9c US
    9 1 01197915 100886 VF 80, Used 511 1917 11c US
    10 1 01197916 103133 XF-Sup 95J, Used Q1 1913 1c US
    11 1 01197917 100577 XF-Sup 95, Used 297 1901 5c US
    12 1 01197918 127472 XF 90, Mint OGnh 303 1903 4c US
    13 1 01197919 100451 VF 80, Used 234 1893 5c US
    14 1 01197920 100525 F-VF 75, Used 274 1895 15c US

    A few bright spots and some disappointments.

    Matt
  • Just saw this ....
    I have had some mixed bag returns too but it looks like you got some good grades too.

    Those Pan-Americans are tough little stamps but I see you got a 95 on the 5c.
  • Thanks Zac. That scott 297 graded 95 is probably the highlight. I actually have 2 of them now. I was planning on sending one of them on consignment to www.gradedstamps.com

    Matt
  • Here are the others if you didn't see them on my new post.

    01198622 100368 XF-Sup 95J, Used 189 1879 15c US
    2 1 01198623 100698 Gem 100, Used 371 1909 2c US
    3 1 01198624 100584 XF-Sup 95, Used 301 1903 2c US
    4 1 01198625 100634 XF 90, Used 326 1904 5c US
    5 1 01198626 100671 XF-Sup 95, Used 347 1909 5c imperf US
    6 1 01198627 100713 Gem 100, Used 383 1910 1c imperf US
    7 1 01198628 100721 Superb 98, Used 390 1910 1c coil US
    8 1 01198629 100747 Gem 100J, Used 409 1912 2c imperf US
    9 1 01198630 100754 XF 90J, Used 416 1912 10c US
    10 1 01198631 100755 Superb 98J, Used 417 1914 12c US
    11 1 01198632 100830 Gem 100J, Used 481 1916 1c imperf US
    12 1 01198633 100831 Gem 100, Used 482 1916 2c type I, imperf US
    13 1 01198634 100834 Gem 100, Used 484 1916 3c type II, imperf US
    14 1 01198635 100834 Gem 100, Used 484 1916 3c type II, imperf US
    15 1 01198636 100902 XF-Sup 95J, Used 518 1917 $1 US
    16 1 01198637 100933 Superb 98, Used 534 1918 2c imperf, type Va US
    17 1 01198638 100932 Superb 98, Used 533 1918 2c imperf, type V US
    18 1 01198639 500742 Superb 98, Used 534A 1918 2c US
    19 1 01198640 100936 NG 0, Used 535 1918 3c imperf US
    20 1 01198641 101854 XF 90J, Used E2 1888 10c US

    Total Items: 20
  • Wow Zac! Congrats on this second submission. You have some incredible grades here.

    Matt
  • Thanks Matt, I was pretty excited, although some were imperfs some of these are still hard to find used that will grade as a 100. The 2 484 100's are the two highest graded now, another buy off ebay! I submitted them as 483's, not sure how I misidentified them.
  • Here's my next submission that just went in to PSE:

    Order #20291530 / Submission #1093830
    Line # Item # Cert # Spec # Grade Scott # Issued Denom. Variety Country
    1 1 01200225 100178 71 1861 30c US
    2 1 01200226 100178 71 1861 30c US
    3 1 01200227 100370 191 1879 90c US
    4 1 01200228 127625 230 1893 1c US
    5 1 01200229 100451 234 1893 5c US
    6 1 01200230 100452 235 1893 6c US
    7 1 01200231 100456 238 1893 15c US
    8 1 01200232 100457 239 1893 30c US
    9 1 01200233 100473 249 1894 2c type I US
    10 1 01200234 100523 273 1895 10c US
    11 1 01200235 100575 296 1901 4c US
    12 1 01200236 100586 302 1903 3c US
    13 1 01200237 100586 302 1903 3c US
    14 1 01200238 100595 311 1903 $1 US
    15 1 01200239 100633 325 1904 3c US
    16 1 01200240 100637 328 1907 1c US
    17 1 01200241 100669 345 1909 3c imperf US
    18 1 01200242 100722 391 1910 2c coil US
    19 1 01200243 100727 396 1913 5c coil US
    20 1 01200244 100714 384 1910 2c imperf US

    Total Items: 20

    Date Received: 4/3/2009

    Date Shipped: N/A

    Order Status: OK

    Again, most of the stamps are used. The 234, 239, one 302, and the 328 are mint. I'm hopeful all those but the 234 are NH. The 234 just doesn't look right to me. Might be a regum. I'm getting the 20% discount off grading, so I'm excited about that.

    I also have another batch (about 10-15) that will be going in shortly too. I also sent 2 stamps off to the PF for certification and grading. One of them is a really nice looking used Confederate States scott number 13.
  • Well good luck, those mint NH are tricky unless they have perfect umblemished gum, I submitted a stamp that had two .5 mm spots you could only see at angle with high magnification that was called PH, but at least you know you are getting quality from PSE with such scrutiny, personally if I thought a stamp was regummed (which is usually fairly easy to tell if you have other verified examples from the same issue) I would probably not submit, but you never know if you don't give it a shot. There were different types of gum on the same issues so unless you are an outright expert it may tough to tell.

    I'm going to try to put together a few to submit but not sure I have a lot worth the expense. The discount is nice, too bad it isn't for the modern ($8) submissions : )
  • Hey Zac. I'm fairly new to the mint issues, as all I've collected since I was a boy was used. I buy the mint just for investment. The 234 is on extension from the seller, so I can return it if its not NH. I probably will be out the cert fee though.

    Matt
  • Well good luck on it anyway(THOSE CERT FEES CAN ADD UP)
  • Well, I got the results:

    Order #20291530 / Submission #1093830
    Line # Item # Cert # Spec # Grade Scott # Issued Denom. Variety Country
    1 1 01200225 100178 XF 90, Used 71 1861 30c US
    2 1 01200226 100178 XF 90, Used 71 1861 30c US
    3 1 01200227 100370 XF 90, Used 191 1879 90c US
    4 1 01200228 127625 XF 90J, Used 230 1893 1c US
    5 1 01200229 100451 VF 80J, Mint RG 234 1893 5c US
    6 1 01200230 100452 VF 80, Used 235 1893 6c US
    7 1 01200231 100456 F 70, Used 238 1893 15c US
    8 1 01200232 100457 XF-Sup 95, Mint RG 239 1893 30c US
    9 1 01200233 100473 VF-XF 85, Used 249 1894 2c type I US
    10 1 01200234 100523 XF-Sup 95, Used 273 1895 10c US
    11 1 01200235 100575 XF-Sup 95, Used 296 1901 4c US
    12 1 01200236 100586 XF 90, Used 302 1903 3c US
    13 1 01200237 100633 VF 80, Used 325 1904 3c US
    14 1 01200238 100595 XF 90, Used 311 1903 $1 US
    15 1 01200239 100586 VF-XF 85, Mint RG 302 1903 3c US
    16 1 01200240 100637 XF 90, Mint OGnh 328 1907 1c US
    17 1 01200241 100669 F-VF 75, Used 345 1909 3c imperf US
    18 1 01200242 100714 NG 0, Used 384 1910 2c imperf US
    19 1 01200243 100726 XF 90, Used 395 1912 4c coil US
    20 1 01200244 100714 XF-Sup 95, Used 384 1910 2c imperf US

    Total Items: 20

    Date Received: 4/3/2009

    Date Shipped: 4/29/2009

    It turns out the 234, the 302, and the 239 are RG. The 391 is actually a fake made from a 384 imperf. I was really hoping the 239 was NH. It looked good to me, but like I said, I have limited experience with these Mint stamps. I'm pretty happy with a bunch of the others though. Some good stuff to add to my collection, and some good resale stuff here to finance my continued bargain hunting buying binge image

    Matt
  • On the mint stamps one of the easiest ways to get familiar with the gum types on different issues is to invest in some genuine mint low value examples of each issue and use them as a reference for comparison. For instance most of the Pan Americans and the 1902-3 regular usually will have lines of perf impressions on the gum , this is usually a sign of original gum. Not 100% fail safe but at around $32 a stamp , it might save you some dissapointments. I have some regummed Columbians whose gum looks nothing like the original gum examples I have.

    Glad you got some good grades you're happy with, if you have anything extra to trade let me know.
  • Thanks Zac. I do need to get a few of the low value mint stamps to use as reference. I like that idea.

    I do have extra stamps here, but my goal is to pay off my mortgage on my home ASAP, so I'm partial to selling rather than trading at this point.

    Matt
  • The economy is really pretty bad for selling right now except for 98's and such, but good luck to you. It's always nice to get things paid off.
  • Here's the next submission that's now in at PSE:

    Order #20303242 / Submission #1094490
    Line # Item # Cert # Spec # Grade Scott # Issued Denom. Variety Country
    1 1 01202416 100066 7 1851 1c type II US (Plate 3?)
    2 1 01202417 100066 8A 1851 1c type IIIa US
    3 1 01202418 100124 37 1860 24c US
    4 1 01202419 100259 116 1869 10c US
    5 1 01202420 100260 117 1869 12c US
    6 1 01202421 100311 153 1870 24c US
    7 1 01202422 100421 221 1890 3c US
    8 1 01202423 100562 287 1898 4c US
    9 1 01202424 100571 294 1901 1c US
    10 1 01202425 100573 295 1901 2c US
    11 1 01202426 100577 297 1901 5c US
    12 1 01202427 100638 329 1907 2c US
    13 1 01202428 100675 351 1909 5c coil US
    14 1 01202429 100675 351 1909 5c coil US
    15 1 01202430 100775 429 1914 6c US
    16 1 01202431 100940 537 1919 3c US
    17 1 01202432 101807 C13 1930 65c US
    18 1 01202433 103143 Q11 1913 75c US
    19 1 01202434 100425 223 1890 5c US

    Total Items: 19

    Date Received: 5/11/2009

    Date Shipped: N/A

    Order Status: OK

    Most of these items were bought on extension, so if they don't come back clean I get to return them, and cert costs are covered. I'm hopeful this will be a good group. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

    Matt
  • Good luck, are you encapsulating? Do the dealers/sellers take back mis-described stamps encapsulated? That's the problem I've always ran into on extensions: 1 They won't take back encapsulated. 2 Won't take back graded items.
  • I'll be sending in a few shortly, not anything stellar but wanna take advantage of the discount, which isn't much considering grading fees went from $30 to $32 on regular service i.e. 10 stamps X $30=$300, 10 stamps X $32 = $320 - 10% = $288, really a savings of $12. Of course if you go 11 stamps and up it's a better deal (%20)
  • Hi Zac. I'm doing graded certs, but not encapsulated. The OG stuff goes straight off to graded stamps, so I don't give myself any opportunity to mess up the gum. Not so worried about the used items in my own collection, because I take great care when doing anything with them. I haven't been able to shake myself yet from the desire to mount them on traditional album pages, and so I'm still sticking with paper certs.

    That being my experience, I don't know if I'd have trouble returning an encapsulated stamp. I have not had any trouble returning graded certs in the past. All the disclaimers I've seen on that say they won't take back a stamp based soley on the assigned grade. In other words, there are no faults mentioned on the cert.

    Matt
  • I use latex disposable gloves when handling OG stamps especially NH. Was that your Pan Am that sold on Crippe's site? Pretty good price if so. That is a tough issue for sure.
  • Hey Zac. Yes, the 296 and 297 that sold were mine. He also just sold a nice 145 that was mine too. I was really happy to see them sell so quickly, and at a good price. Fortunately I still have good examples of those same stamps in my own collection.

    Matt
  • Well I just sent off a group of 11 stamps for grading (taking advantage of the 20% discount). I will get the opportunity to see how well I understand grading. The group consists of 65s, 158s, and 184s. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

    Rolin
  • Yeah Matt you did good, they were nice stamps though not surprised they sold fast(also 2 popular comm's).

    Good luck Rolew maybe you'll do well your first time, although sometimes it's a shock at first to see what PSE's standards are compared the average collector's opinion. "Looks pretty well centered to me" ends up being an 85 not a 98.
  • If there is any one stamp that can pull a 98 it would be one of the 65s. A pale brown red with no short perfs. I used photoshop to measure the margins and the left margin is .2mm larger than the others. It has a socked on the nose, light fancy cancel. It is a very pleasant stamp to look at. As for the rest, I have ideas of what lower grades they may come back as but I want to see if they noticed what I did about them. Time will tell. I guess about mid June. It is kind of an expensive test but then again I might get surprised.

    Rolin
  • Well I just sent a few today, might get some "OK" grades. Might make a list of them and some "predictions" tomorrow, might be interesting to see how close I come.
  • I thought it might be fun to try to make some predictions too. If I can get around to putting up the scans, I'd be interested in some guesses. Could be fun!

    Matt
  • I thought about showing scans too but I never seem to have luck with that on this site.
  • Here's an attempt to post several scans of some of the stamps currently in for grading. Anyone want to venture a guess as to what the grade might be?

    Scott 287 OGnh
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    Matt
  • Scott 295 OGnh
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  • Scott 351 OGnh
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  • Scott 8A

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  • Scott 7 (from plate 3)
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  • Scott 37

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  • Scott 116

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  • Scott 117

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  • Scott 221 OGnh

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