Do you think there is anything I could do to get PCGS to change this? (MPL related)

commoncents05

I recently sent in two MPLs to PCGS for grading, both 1910. One I knew would BB, but I wanted it in a holder. The other one ended up bagging as well, so they both came back in a Genuine Holder. My issue with this is that there is little indication that the coin is indeed a Matte Proof. Yes, the coin number in the serial number indicates that it is, but I can see a big hassle when I go to sell it having to fight my case that what I have is indeed an MPL. It would seem to me this would be an area of dispute for many classic Proof coins, especially one with problems. Is there any way PCGS will change their policy on this to include the word "Proof" on Genuine slabs? It would be very helpful, especially on a series like Matte Lincolns, where many people can't discern the difference between a Matte Proof and a Business Strike. Any opinions?

-Paul

drwstr123

Isn't the coin designation given in the first set of numbers on the slab? (xxxx.91/01234567)
The PCGS Coin Numbering System lists a 1910 Proof Lincoln as "3308.grade/serial number". So if your coin came back it would read: 3308.91/xxxxxxxx.

illini420

Not only for matte proof lincolns, but any proof coin if in a genuine holder should say Proof on the holder. I didn't imagine that it wouldn't. There are many older proof coins that are difficult to distinguish from the mint state coins, especially in lower grades and for those unfamiliar with the series. For example, I can imagine folks sending in Seated type coins or Morgan Dollars that are proof like, and maybe cleaned to get them in genuine holders and pass them off as proofs.

ProofCents

can you post a photo?

BWRC

I just had a Matte Proof graded by PCGS (questionable color) and it came back in a genuine holder with small letters in the center of the slab which said "proof". They are putting the word "proof" on the genuine slabs. At least in my case they did.

tacynnep

No. It wasn't say"proof" on my 1885 1 cent "Genuine 2343.92/xxxx" only.

drwstr123

<< <i>No. It wasn't say"proof" on my 1885 1 cent "Genuine 2343.92/xxxx" only. >>


"2343.grade/serial number"
The PCGS Coin Numbering Guide lists #2343 as a 1885 proof Indian cent.

commoncents05

Yes, I know that the first four numbers indicate a coin number, but imagine haggling with some dealer who doubts it's a Proof. It would be much easier to get "Proof" written right on the label. Here's some quick pics:









-Paul

drwstr123

Just tell the dealer to come to the site and do a look-up. What's the prob?

WaterSport

Like I said, crack them out, set them on the back porch turning them over every other week until they turn a nice even brown in about 3 months, and resubmit them... viola problem solved.

WS

drwstr123

<< <i>Like I said, crack them out, set them on the back porch turning them over every other week until they turn a nice even brown in about 3 months, and resubmit them... viola problem solved.

WS >>


Slow down, be careful. If the powers get wind, then maybe nothing will everget graded again. Think about life with Registry Sets full of 'GENUINE'.

DIMEMAN

I totally agree it should say proof or MS or any doubling or variety or JR # (if bust dime) if you paid for that service.