What are these? German silver coin + copper token..?

norwegianguy

Coins? Tokens? Something else?

I guess the copper coin is a token, but the silver one?

spoon

Interesting! I've never seen them before. Have no clue on the first, the second is religious jeton, though I can't offer any clues as to its origin I'd wager it's from no later than the 1830s-40s, likely much earlier. Here's a translation of that one:

Obverse:
The Tetragrammaton is in the sun - Hebrew "Jehovah".
legend - "There is no greater offer than this."
center - Quotes Mark 12:30 - Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. - That's taken from here, though the coin's text is slightly different.

Reverse:
legend - Quotes Psalms 1:3 - He is as a tree planted by brooks of water.

coachleonard

in one sense the copper token looks like a mexican hacienda token...but it looks in the style of the hacienda tokens that
were struck early 1800s to about the 1850s--plus, generally, mexican hacidenda tokens didnt have reverse designs like
yours has wit the flower. so that piece is pretty puzzling

Muygrandeoso

<< <i>in one sense the copper token looks like a mexican hacienda token...but it looks in the style of the hacienda tokens that
were struck early 1800s to about the 1850s--plus, generally, mexican hacidenda tokens didnt have reverse designs like
yours has wit the flower. so that piece is pretty puzzling >>



I think that it is a hacienda token. I have a similar one somewhere, and it is identified as such.

Chris

norwegianguy

Thanks, guys. I'm a little step closer now, at least

ColinCMR

at first glance i thought the top token could be a communion token, but it lacks most of the elements of one