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My experience with NCS - 2S 1927C Proof impaired
RareSov
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I bought this
I sent it to NGC but on the comments I asked if NCS could improve the appearance
$10 evaluation fee on the invoice, and $40 for work
Quick turnaround, coin was stuck in customs over half of the time I was waiting, 6 weeks ! 72 day total turnaround
Deliberately lighting up the obverse there, I have no camera setup (handycam used for these)
Now has proper strong mirrors, totally clean surfaces and looks so much better, bagmarks and scrapes or not
Back to NGC and graded as well, PF58 (noted a tiny rub on the tip of the right reverse orb, and maybe one of the pearls)
Oh, AND it was dipped carefully before it left Australia (by the seller!). Its been a long wait, but its worth it
they don't come cheap in FDC
I sent it to NGC but on the comments I asked if NCS could improve the appearance
$10 evaluation fee on the invoice, and $40 for work
Quick turnaround, coin was stuck in customs over half of the time I was waiting, 6 weeks ! 72 day total turnaround
Deliberately lighting up the obverse there, I have no camera setup (handycam used for these)
Now has proper strong mirrors, totally clean surfaces and looks so much better, bagmarks and scrapes or not
Back to NGC and graded as well, PF58 (noted a tiny rub on the tip of the right reverse orb, and maybe one of the pearls)
Oh, AND it was dipped carefully before it left Australia (by the seller!). Its been a long wait, but its worth it
they don't come cheap in FDC 0
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And if it is a real proof (not sure I necessarily trust NGC), Krause has it listed at $15K. Yow!
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<< <i>Other than the unsightly clamps provided by the holder, it looks nice. Seems to be a bit of cameo going on the obverse.
And if it is a real proof (not sure I necessarily trust NGC), Krause has it listed at $15K. Yow! >>
when a coin is valued that high, you can be sure they thought about it good and hard; that is a lot more liability between business strike and proof to just slab it willy-nilly.
<< <i>Am I reading correctly? I understand that the coin has been worked on to produce its current condition? >>
Yeah, I am wondering that myself. It actually is still impaired in my eyes. Does it still have all of the hairlining in the fields as the first pics suggest?
It was worked on by removing tarnish with silver dip and some toothpick work ! (the seller explained his work to me)
I sent it to NGC/NCS anyway, before I got his reply. I felt it was original or ok anyway. NGC took my comment literally about NCS improving eye appeal and must have agreed, it went to NCS. NCS evaluated it for $10 and work was done, they must have had high confidence their dip (???) would help the coin
I could cross it, no worries
Strike is also a dead giveaway, the orbs and full steps, the depth of rim
A FDC proof I saw at ANDA show (Monetarium) had much more prominent milling, because it was a perfect example of course ! 49,500 AUD retail, but could be had for less. Monetarium and Sterling Currency here both have FDC proofs, they are definitely much nicer and more valuable. Quite a few from the 400 mintage were lost to circulation. Interestingly though, the PCGS PR67 at Sterling Currency is already quite dark, another hundred years it could be too dark to appreciate. Hard to believe my coin has any tiny advantage over something so much rarer. I guess they can still conserve it some day, scary though
http://sterlingcurrency.com.au/items/proof-florin-1927-fdc-pcgs-pr-67 see here for the one I'm talking about. A beauty, check the full sized images from the small thumbnail links
OH and why is it only $15,000 USD in Krause instead of 30 ?
See the page above. MOST orders from the mintage were sold to dealers who sold them on to *drum roll* THE USA
<< <i>Other than the unsightly clamps provided by the holder >>
It will never move, and the light comes in good.. but yeah if only they weren't there and it still wouldn't move..
Sucks when they don't know the type well, and holder it slightly on an angle. Neither obv or rev is off center, both would line up perfectly in the slab if it was holdered properly. And I have no hope of it moving counter clockwise 5 degrees or so
I do like the new holder myself, I'm over the whole prong thing
I have questions...
Are there PL examples known?
The better question is... where any of the left over Proof dies used to strike coins for circulation?
Our Australian experts will hopefully provide some guidance
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
There are Centenary 1934-35 florins in PL though, keep an eye out for those. Struck from proof dies
Hmm
Description AUSTRALIA
Category WORLD COINS
Denomination 2S
Year/Mint 1927 AUSTRALIA
Variety PARLIAMENT HOUSE
Designation PF
Total Graded 1
58 1
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
I don't know more than what I read in the catalogue, nor do I know the die identifiers, that should be in August 2007 CAB, "Coin and Banknote" magazine over here. I've been meaning to pick up a copy and read, they are a great coin IMHO
Both are catalogued.. lets see
50% higher aUNC
100% higher UNC
200% higher ChUNC
300% higher GEM
Pricing is still early but these should be pretty good figures
Noticed a back issue with feature about this 1927 Proof too, so ordered that
As for original coin, good pick up, pity about the dipping, the coin has lost most of its character .
I'm usually on Greg's side once something is in the book, if he's willing to publish it as a variety or whatever
As for the dip I never saw it before the seller dipped it himself, but to me it has only gotten better. I will be posting some better pics when I get them
Greg publishes before checking, there are a few things that are contentious in his guides.
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