Manny reaches deal with Dodgers $45.2 million for 2 years

Michigan

It was only a question of time and how much, lots of BS to get where they were several weeks ago. Nobody came off looking good here.

Barndog

now the Dodgers really should get to see Manny being Manny

MeteoriteGuy

<< <i>It was only a question of time and how much, lots of BS to get where they were several weeks ago. Nobody came off looking good here. >>




It looks like Manny held out a couple weeks and got what he wanted (pay wise), which I think everyone knew he would. But I would not let the media tell you this was full of BS, such things happen with dozens of players in every sport in every year, most of which do not make the news.

yankeeno7

I dont think you will see as serious "manny being manny" crap going on with the Dodgers for 2 reasons
1) I think Torre can hold the reigns on Manny pretty well
2) Manny has 2 years to show big time production to land another big 2 year contract when this one is up. Now if Manny had 3-6 years, I think he would be more of the "manny being manny"

Barndog

<< <i>I dont think you will see as serious "manny being manny" crap going on with the Dodgers for 2 reasons
1) I think Torre can hold the reigns on Manny pretty well
2) Manny has 2 years to show big time production to land another big 2 year contract when this one is up. Now if Manny had 3-6 years, I think he would be more of the "manny being manny" >>



see, I don't believe Manny's mind works that way. I think he learned the lesson that he can slack off when he chooses to do so, as long as he performs when it counts (last couple of months of the year). So I would expect a big second half of 2010 out of Ramirez.

lsutigers1973

Manny finally signing changed the outcome of mock fantasy drafts. The mock drafts I have run and the ones I have read, originally had Manny as a 4th or 5th round selection for a 10-12 team league. Now he is showing up in the late first round.

stown

According to reports, deal still isn't done..

Barndog

<< <i>According to reports, deal still isn't done.. >>



exactly. The LAD could really screw themselves with the second year being totally a player option. We shall see. Boras will do well, at the very least. That's what really counts...to Boras

larryallen73

I am a Dodger fan but I am really nervous about signing Manny. With all this nonesense going on Manny will feel he has been wronged and not play to his potential. I wish they would take a pass on Manny.

Barndog

the deal that was finalized gives the Dodgers the best Manny possible for 2009. Opt-out opportunity for Manny after just the first year ensures he will play passionately much of the time in order to pump his market value for 2010.

I wonder, with added Boras fees and higher CA taxes than MA taxes, if Manny will clear more this year than had he stayed with Boston?

MCMLVTopps

Barndog...

Interesting point about taxes. There is no state income tax in Florida as well as NH, NV, TN and a few other states. Is it safe to say that all the ballplayers for the Rays and Marlins pay no income tax on their earnings? If so, I would think as a pro player, that would be a massive incentive to relocate to either team if opportunity presented itself.

Barndog

<< <i>Barndog...

Interesting point about taxes. There is no state income tax in Florida as well as NH, NV, TN and a few other states. Is it safe to say that all the ballplayers for the Rays and Marlins pay no income tax on their earnings? If so, I would think as a pro player, that would be a massive incentive to relocate to either team if opportunity presented itself. >>



if those teams paid up big like the NY teams, Boston, and a few others, there would be something to think about in addition to "chance to win"

I think MA has taxes of 5.3% on income (I do my mother's taxes each year and she used to work in MA, live in NH -- had to pay MA tax). No idea what the tax rate is in CA. I'd imagine players in Toronto have some sort of language in their contracts as to how they are paid too...Canadian dollars or U.S. Taxes must be different there too.

WinPitcher

Didn't he basically sign for what they had on the table for the past 3 weeks?

Looks to me like he finally figured out no one else wanted him.


Dodgers should have lowered the offer.

Steve

MeteoriteGuy

<< <i>Didn't he basically sign for what they had on the table for the past 3 weeks?

Looks to me like he finally figured out no one else wanted him.


Dodgers should have lowered the offer.

Steve >>



The problem Manny had was not amount so to say, but that the Dodgers wanted to give him most of his salary...or a good portion of it...deferred. Not to act like I understand the difference, meaning not that I have read the two contracts. However, I don't know anyone that would work for deferred payments....do you?

Not to mention $20 million now...is not the same as $20 million deferred. $20 million deferred might only be $10-12 million.

SanctionII

With the recent arduous, politically risky, heroic and courageous work of the California Legislature and Governor Arnold to boldly address and proudly resolve a 42 billion dollar projected state budget deficit for the remainder of the 20089 and the entire 200910 fiscal years [tax increases of about $12-14 billion, budget "cuts" (yeah right) of about $15 billion and borrowing of the rest], I believe that California now has the one of the highest, if not the highest state income tax rates in the US (10%-10.5% I think) and it has a 9.25% sales tax.

Add those tax rates to federal income tax rates [which will be going up (anything you make over $250K will should be taxed at a 99% rate since it is only "fair" that high income earners pay their "fair share", right?) under our new president and our new congress] and I suspect that Manny may regret playing for the Dodgers instead of the Marlins or D-Rays.

Oh well, it really brings me a sense of peace and comfort to know that upon signing a new contract with the Dodgers Manny will at least be a little better able to "provide for his family"

Barndog

deferred money is very common in sports. I forget the numbers, but Manny will be receiving deferred money from Boston for a while. Recall too that A-Roid was getting deferred money from the Rangers for a while (maybe still?)

bman90278

<< <i>It was only a question of time and how much, lots of BS to get where they were several weeks ago. Nobody came off looking good here. >>



Just wondering how the Dodgers don't look good here?

stevek

Manny probably wants to be a big star in Hollywood movies out there - he don't want to play much baseball.